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Netscape Browser 8.1.3 Released

Thursday April 12th, 2007

A security update for the Mozilla Firefox-based Netscape Browser 8 has been released. Netscape Browser 8.1.3 includes a variety of security fixes, with the Netscape Browser Security Alerts page stating that the release "includes Firefox security patches up through 1.5.0.8". However, the subsequent 1.5.0.9, 1.5.0.10 and 1.5.0.11 updates to Firefox all include security fixes (details on the Mozilla Foundation Security Advisories page) so it appears that this latest Netscape release has known security flaws.

The official Netscape Blog has an announcement about Netscape Browser 8.1.3, which recommends uninstalling any existing versions before updating (profile data will not be lost).

Netscape Browser 8.1.3 can be obtained from the Netscape Browser download page. An upgrade can also be initiated from within the Browser Update section of the Security Center component of the browser. There are a few more details in the Netscape Browser 8.1.3 Release Notes.

Earlier this year, Netscape announced that they are working on version 9 of the veteran browser.


#1 Why am I not surprised?

by DP3_001

Friday April 13th, 2007 8:37 PM

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"Netscape Browser 8...'includes Firefox security patches up through 1.5.0.8'...However, the subsequent 1.5.0.9, 1.5.0.10 and 1.5.0.11 updates to Firefox all include security fixes, so it appears that this latest Netscape release has known security flaws."

Another reminder that, if you want a real, authentic, Gecko-based browser, don't settle for anything less than the real thing: Firefox. Anything else just won't do.

#2 Re: Why am I not surprised?

by BenoitRen

Saturday April 14th, 2007 3:13 AM

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Or Flock. Or SeaMonkey.

#3 yargh

by justinmason

Saturday April 14th, 2007 4:42 PM

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Typical knee-jerk reaction of mozillazine readers. Instead of supporting the spread of gecko-based browsers, outspoken members of the community seem intent on netscape bashing every time a new version or update is released.

People, please pull your heads out of your asses and realize that any advertising which promotes gecko, mozilla, open source and community projects is _good_.

Without netscape we would have no "real, authentic, gecko based browser", no seed funding, no firefox. Though they may not release the most up to date, secure, feature laden, non-bloated product, these browsers are still coming installed on new HP and eMachines afaik. This means that netscape is doing something that the mozilla foundation has yet to achieve, installs on major vendor machines.

An arabian proverb comes to mind, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".

Stay positive guys.

Good work netscape devs, glad to see this project is still alive. Good luck with NS9!

#4 Re: vendor installs *correction*

by justinmason

Saturday April 14th, 2007 4:45 PM

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Excuse me, According to Blake Ross, DELL *UK* is doing vendor installs of firefox on new machines as of 2k5.

<http://blakeross.com/index.php?p=178>

Spread Gecko!

#5 Re: yargh

by DP3_001

Saturday April 14th, 2007 10:01 PM

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If these guys are going to go to the trouble of taking stuff from the Mozilla community to make their own browser, they should at least have the decency to not turn what they get into a bloated, security hole-ridded piece of crap!! Instead, they sit on their fat, lazy asses and do (like always) a half-assed job, and another pathetic excuse of a Gecko-based browser, named Netscape, is banged out. How are we supposed to stay "positive" when these people at Netscape do everything, and anything, to embarrass us???!!! Those people are disgusting!! Either put out the effort, or don't bother!! HP, eMachines and every other computer maker would be better off giving Firefox to their users. If they did that, at least their customers would have something that was more secure & user-friendly.

BTW: If anybody needs to pull their heads out of their own ass, dude, it should be you, because it's WAAAAY up there!! (LOL!!)

#6 Re: Re: yargh

by justinmason

Saturday April 14th, 2007 11:14 PM

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hey look, its the funny man!

"How are we supposed to stay "positive" when these people at Netscape do everything, and anything, to embarrass us???!!!"

Can you please explain? I dont see where the mozilla community has been embarrassed by Netscape. Was it when they gave us (the mozilla community/foundation) the IP rights? Or maybe the cash funding? Or the huge enormous code base? :rolls eyes:

"HP, eMachines and every other computer maker would be better off giving Firefox to their users. If they did that, at least their customers would have something that was more secure & user-friendly."

Sure, agreed. But unfortunately in the _real_ world, those companies look for a product that 1) is supported and 2) has been funded by the parent company to be placed on the desktop. You don't really think any of those companies freely load that "TRY AOL NOW!" icon on your desk for free do you? The default desktop is expensive real estate and community based projects have had an enormously hard time trying to crack it with OEM vendors.

"If anybody needs to pull their heads out of their own ass, dude, it should be you, because it's WAAAAY up there!! (LOL!!)"

Darn, you really got me with that one. Next time though, how about you try some logical argumentation?

#7 bleach!

by Lyx

Sunday April 15th, 2007 12:00 PM

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"You don't really think any of those companies freely load that "TRY AOL NOW!" icon on your desk for free do you? The default desktop is expensive real estate and community based projects have had an enormously hard time trying to crack it with OEM vendors."

BLEACH!!! That is the most disgusting argument against firefox i ve ever read. Treating the user as a billboard-screen and that way pushing all kinds of bloated bullshit down his throat. This business mentality - treating the user like shit without any respect - is the main cause for everything which is wrong in the internet AND computerworld today - spyware, bloatware, security nightmares, complicated sofware and turning the machine into the master and the user into the slave.

I leave it up to you to clean up the giant amount of puke you provoked with such an assine post.

- Lyx

#8 Re: bleach!

by justinmason

Sunday April 15th, 2007 1:35 PM

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"BLEACH!!! That is the most disgusting argument against firefox i ve ever read."

Not an argument against firefox, but a reality of how things are done in our profit driven marketplace.

Ps: Unfortunately I was unable to locate 'assine' in traditional English language dictionaries. Perhaps you could link me?

#10 Re: Re: bleach!

by Lyx

Monday April 16th, 2007 2:08 PM

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"Not an argument against firefox, but a reality of how things are done in our profit driven marketplace."

This has nothing to do with profit-orientation. It has to do with parasitism. Corporations take the role of the active parasite(egoism) while the consumer is treated like the passive host(altruism). The corporation is the master, and the consumer the slave. This is what it is about. It is not a matter of profit, since there is also the option of mutualism - thus, the corporation makes profit with something, which is benefical (and therefore respectful) of the user. So, partnership.

Why should firefox - a browser which has since its beginning respected the user - support parasitism and abuse? By playing by their rules, firefox supports them and becomes like them, step by step. Thus, loosing the aspect which originally made it popular in the first place.e You dont change the world by becoming like everyone else.

#11 Re: Re: Re: bleach!

by schapel

Monday April 16th, 2007 3:35 PM

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Are you suggesting that Mozilla code should be relicensed to somehow prevent others from creating their own distributions? You do realize that's against the nature of open-source software, right? That's besides the fact that it would probably be impossible to do so at this point.

#15 Bleach mostly

by thomhera

Wednesday April 25th, 2007 4:09 PM

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Bitch, Bitch, Bitch. Seems both of you agree on the problems and the capitalist/empire building ideology foundational to the problems, but only one of you appears to be moving toward solutions to those problems--we can all of us bitch all day, but sadly bitching solves little. What are your solutions?

Unless i am mistaken (certainly possible) on one hand, i see you wanting firefox on desktops but not wanting to "play by" corporate rules for fear of becoming like the corporations (which really seems to me like not wanting firefox to have any contact with corporations). On the other hand, i see you encouraging "partnership" with the corporations as a means to facilitating the placement of firefox on new computer desktops. How do you propose to "partnership" with another organization (corporation) without a language understood by both parties? And, would a person speaking, writing, reading that shared language be a sell out to the corporate world you have identified as the "enemy?"

#14 Re: bleach!

by tryptase

Friday April 20th, 2007 1:45 AM

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I'd happily pay the few pennies more to have a bloat-free default desktop on my new PC. Come on Dell, make that one of your many 'customise and buy' options.

#9 Re: Re: Re: yargh

by BenoitRen

Monday April 16th, 2007 5:07 AM

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"I dont see where the mozilla community has been embarrassed by Netscape."

Maybe the fact that they take ages to update their browser, and when they finally do, it's not up-to-date in regards to the latest security updates?

#12 SPREAD GECKO

by Sailfish <sailfish@unforgettable.com>

Tuesday April 17th, 2007 6:09 PM

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"Maybe the fact that they take ages to update their browser, and when they finally do, it's not up-to-date in regards to the latest security updates?"

That embarrasses the Mozilla community? And here I thought they were made of tougher stuff.

Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, Netscape, Flock - "SPREAD GECKO"

#13 Re: SPREAD GECKO

by schapel

Tuesday April 17th, 2007 6:50 PM

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I agree. Personally, I think it's the raging fanboys that embarrass the Mozilla community the most. We should all learn to have thicker skin and not let slights or insults bother us. The fact that Netscape choose to release a browser that has several known critical security problems should not be of any concern to us.

#16 Communicator

by veerakumar

Tuesday May 22nd, 2007 7:33 PM

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How about having a Netscape Communicator like Seamonkey

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