Tuesday January 8th, 2002
A few of you have asked for us to post a news item taking your suggestions for the site, so here it is. Tell us all your ideas for what we can do to improve the site. Anything you want we'll think about, but try to keep it realistic.
Just to keep you updated, one of the things we're planning on working on is getting the ChromeZone up again, if we can find some volunteer editors to help organize themes. If you're interested, please email me and I'll get back to you sometime this week.
UPDATE! Right now we're working on dumping all the tables and other old HTML within the site to both show off Mozilla's skills, and to get our file sizes smaller. If you're using Communicator to view the site, you'll notice everything looking pretty ugly, thanks to the poor CSS support it offers. If you're using IE, it'll look a bit better, but thanks to IE's lacking CSS2 support, the sidebar will show up incorrectly. We've completely redone the homepage and talkback code, and we'll be working on the forums next.
UPDATE 2! We discovered Google's great "Search Site" feature, and have added it. Right now it has most areas of the site indexed except news item talkback pages. It will start indexing talkback today, and will hopefully add all of the old items, in addition to picking up the new ones.
UPDATE 3! We've been working hard to get as many of your suggestions as possible implemented, and we encourage you to continue the feedback. You can check this article's responses for what items we have fixed, or are working on.
#76 I actually pointed this out before the change :-)
Saturday January 12th, 2002 5:41 PM
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I did actually plead for a "usable" Mozillazine site on older browsers in the "XML, Buildbar Comments" discussion just prior to the latest change - see: <http://www.mozillazine.or…le=2120&message=29#29>
I'm disappointed to say that the revamp (so far) has not provided what I requested - namely a site that is actually both readable and navigable in Netscape 4.X for example (it can look ugly as heck as far in older browsers as far as I'm concerned). Whilst the postings seem to be readable, the "Reply to this message" and links to replies to postings don't seem to work :-(
It looks like mozillaZine has indeed repeated the mistakes of <http://www.mozillaquestquest.com>, <http://www.mozillanews.org> and galeon.sourceforge.net as I feared it would, but it is early days and one hopes that they can tweak the pages to make them usuable in older browsers.
As the original poster (and I myself in my original post) said, mozillaZine is an advocacy site and hence must be usuable by as many browsers as is feasible, so that the advocacy message can be passed onto users who "haven't seen the Mozilla light yet". I still use Netscape 4.79 myself on some (slower) platforms because it starts much faster than Mozilla and uses about half the RAM of Mozilla. On faster platforms, Mozilla (or variants like Netscape 6.2.1 or galeon 1.0.2) is clearly the browser of choice, but not everyone has P4 machines you know...