Site Suggestions

Tuesday January 8th, 2002

A few of you have asked for us to post a news item taking your suggestions for the site, so here it is. Tell us all your ideas for what we can do to improve the site. Anything you want we'll think about, but try to keep it realistic.

Just to keep you updated, one of the things we're planning on working on is getting the ChromeZone up again, if we can find some volunteer editors to help organize themes. If you're interested, please email me and I'll get back to you sometime this week.

UPDATE! Right now we're working on dumping all the tables and other old HTML within the site to both show off Mozilla's skills, and to get our file sizes smaller. If you're using Communicator to view the site, you'll notice everything looking pretty ugly, thanks to the poor CSS support it offers. If you're using IE, it'll look a bit better, but thanks to IE's lacking CSS2 support, the sidebar will show up incorrectly. We've completely redone the homepage and talkback code, and we'll be working on the forums next.

UPDATE 2! We discovered Google's great "Search Site" feature, and have added it. Right now it has most areas of the site indexed except news item talkback pages. It will start indexing talkback today, and will hopefully add all of the old items, in addition to picking up the new ones.

UPDATE 3! We've been working hard to get as many of your suggestions as possible implemented, and we encourage you to continue the feedback. You can check this article's responses for what items we have fixed, or are working on.

#173 Re: Facts are facts

by todd2002

Wednesday January 16th, 2002 7:06 AM

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Asa, some things here are getting severly twisted around as to the point I was making. To clear a few things up: Am I saying that IE's inclusion in Windows doesn't affect IE's market share? Absolutely not.

That point is that if Mozilla never *gains* significant market share, especially compared to where it is now, *despite* AOL muscle, advertising, bundling deals, word of mouth, etc... that it is *NOT* because of IE being included with Windows... it is because Mozilla simply wasn't accepted by the masses. Period. The end.

If, three or four years from now, Mozilla never gains any significant ground in market share then you, or anyone else, can blame IE's inclusion into Windows all you want but the reality will be that the ultimate blame lies within that of Mozilla. To think anything else is a sheer cop out.

I've noticed also that a few people here severely underestimate a users ability to make decisions for themselves... as if a user needs to be a software developer or web master in order to make intelligent rational choices. Nothing could be *further* from the truth.

I could site countless examples of 'know nothing' users who somehow, by an act of God, conjured up the ability to choose and use software that wasn't 'in line' with what Windows dished them. Are any of these folks even close to being software developers, web developers, or even a computer geeks? Hell no... not even *remotely*. The only thing they are guilty of being is rational and intelligent adults.

Don't blame IE if Mozilla stays bogged down in a 1% (or whatever) market share.