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Tuesday January 8th, 2002

A few of you have asked for us to post a news item taking your suggestions for the site, so here it is. Tell us all your ideas for what we can do to improve the site. Anything you want we'll think about, but try to keep it realistic.

Just to keep you updated, one of the things we're planning on working on is getting the ChromeZone up again, if we can find some volunteer editors to help organize themes. If you're interested, please email me and I'll get back to you sometime this week.

UPDATE! Right now we're working on dumping all the tables and other old HTML within the site to both show off Mozilla's skills, and to get our file sizes smaller. If you're using Communicator to view the site, you'll notice everything looking pretty ugly, thanks to the poor CSS support it offers. If you're using IE, it'll look a bit better, but thanks to IE's lacking CSS2 support, the sidebar will show up incorrectly. We've completely redone the homepage and talkback code, and we'll be working on the forums next.

UPDATE 2! We discovered Google's great "Search Site" feature, and have added it. Right now it has most areas of the site indexed except news item talkback pages. It will start indexing talkback today, and will hopefully add all of the old items, in addition to picking up the new ones.

UPDATE 3! We've been working hard to get as many of your suggestions as possible implemented, and we encourage you to continue the feedback. You can check this article's responses for what items we have fixed, or are working on.


#172 Re: Re: Fact is more than words out of *a* mouth.

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Wednesday January 16th, 2002 12:38 AM

You are replying to this message

Bruce, you\'re leaving off the part where Microsoft illegally leveraged it\'s monopoly in the operating system to lean on _distributors_ of PCs to remove or burry the alternative and give top placement to IE on the desktop.

People will stick with something they\'ve been given if it\'s simply good enough. When IE was good enough for most people most of the time and they didn\'t have an alternative available _on_ _the_ _system_ _they_ _just_ _purchased_ then Netscape\'s share started to diminish.(see, computers used to ship with Netscape, most people who used Netscape got it on their new PC but when MS started threatening PC vendors who shipped Netscape it had a major impact).

Without some serious bundling deal or other distribution mechanism _no_ browser, no matter how good it is, will take significant market share from IE. There simply are not that many people that will download a replacement for an application they already have. Just watch as winzip, one of the most popular downloads of all time, goes away over the next coupld of years since Microsoft started providing an \'integrated\' zip utility with windowsXP (if winXP enjoys the same adoption rates as 98).

And I take issue with your calling this a cop-out. It\'s not. It is, however, a darned good reason to be putting effort into making Mozilla and Gecko more appealing to companies that have distribution mechanisms or if you\'ve got any friends at Dell, IBM, HP, or Compaq let me know.

--Asa