Site Suggestions

Tuesday January 8th, 2002

A few of you have asked for us to post a news item taking your suggestions for the site, so here it is. Tell us all your ideas for what we can do to improve the site. Anything you want we'll think about, but try to keep it realistic.

Just to keep you updated, one of the things we're planning on working on is getting the ChromeZone up again, if we can find some volunteer editors to help organize themes. If you're interested, please email me and I'll get back to you sometime this week.

UPDATE! Right now we're working on dumping all the tables and other old HTML within the site to both show off Mozilla's skills, and to get our file sizes smaller. If you're using Communicator to view the site, you'll notice everything looking pretty ugly, thanks to the poor CSS support it offers. If you're using IE, it'll look a bit better, but thanks to IE's lacking CSS2 support, the sidebar will show up incorrectly. We've completely redone the homepage and talkback code, and we'll be working on the forums next.

UPDATE 2! We discovered Google's great "Search Site" feature, and have added it. Right now it has most areas of the site indexed except news item talkback pages. It will start indexing talkback today, and will hopefully add all of the old items, in addition to picking up the new ones.

UPDATE 3! We've been working hard to get as many of your suggestions as possible implemented, and we encourage you to continue the feedback. You can check this article's responses for what items we have fixed, or are working on.

#152 Re: any proff in sight?

by todd2002

Tuesday January 15th, 2002 10:05 AM

You are replying to this message

"fist....Mozilla is damn stable for me, it crashes far less than IE or Windows itself (again for me)."

"Again for me"... That's the real trick here isn't it. Unfortunatley, the market hasn't come to bear similar perceptions.

"Let's use a "finished" product named Opera."

Ok, let's. Considering that Opera didn't really start to shine until v5 and that it carries a $30 *price* tag, it has made remarkable progress. Not to mention that its default user agent string identifies it as IE5 rather than Opera for optimum site compatibility... including the fact that it supports a few common IEisms. What is this again about market share?

"So to bring some real facts in the discussion (something you didn't till now) I as a user think that Mozilla is stable, usable and even fast enough (on my PII 450)."

Really? Ok, here are some more facts for you to swallow. Performance wise, Mozilla runs like a bloated pig on a Celeron-500 w/128 MB RAM. Forget the UI, stability, and reliability problems... just in performance the evidence is right before my own eyes. Whether I compare to IE, Opera, or NS4... the difference is as plain as day!! In fact, I'll doublecheck for your own satisfaction: Okay, I'm launching IE... boom! In my face. Now I'm gonna launch Opera6... here we go... boom!... In my face. Okay, here's NS4... a tad of griding there but there it is... whammo! Now to Moz... okay... theres the splash screen... okay wait.. what's going on here... oh yeah.. wait... ok, I see... there it is. Ah, finally. Let's open the address book... ummm... whats going on here? Where is it? Ah, there it is. Ok, let's open a new mail window... here we go... now wait just a darn minute... where is the thing? I know I just chose to open a mail window... ah, ok... here it is finally. Now let me manage some bookmarks in Moz... ah wonderful, speedy and responsive as usual (not). Hmmm.. why is this thing apparantly waiting for every damn command I issue it, I wonder?? Ad infinitum.....

"And a finished, usable, and fast product doesn't have any real marketshare."

That statement is just oozing with reason...