Hosting UpdateThursday December 20th, 2001We're getting close. After taking a really good look at our logs, we've discovered that we're pushing a lot more down the pipe than any of us realized. The site is at the point where our small ISP can no longer handle the load. We want to thank our current ISP, LocalWeb, for being so gracious in letting us bog down their servers for as long as we have. The donations so far have been nothing short of amazing. We are deeply in our readers debts, and work working to repay that debt with a site that works. We are getting close to having enough money to allow us to find a good host that can accommodate our growth over the next year. As far as picking that host, we have a couple pretty serious offers, and others who are still thinking about it. Here again, the generosity of folks is amazing, you wouldn't believe how many people have a friend or a relative that works at an ISP. I'm hoping that we can get the site moved by early January, and get back to regular life around here as soon as possible. We thank you again for all your support, and we'll keep you posted as to what's going on. Jason Send me an email at maxwell@101freeway.com and let me know how much bandwidth you guys need. We don't have any servers that could handle a site this size, but if you could provide a rackmount server, we might be able to cut you guys a deal since I admin for an isp. http://www.ikestrel.com Me and a friend have a site hosted here, they are pretty good. Not sure about prices, but I'd recommend checking them out, they can definately deal with the bandwidth (assuming 30gig/month). That seems a lot of bandwidth, have i got it right? thanks -mike You'd think Netscape could pony up some server space for the site, but maybe you want to remain independent, which would make sense, I guess. JR If you make the site mirrorable for static data, and round-robin dns (i.e. transparent mirror), I'll be happy to provide a vhost, as would many other's I'm sure. In my account at Germany I have 25 gig/month transfer volume with the best quality (check www.schlund.de) - always reachable. I can give you 20gigs! The only suboptimal thing is that I have just 200MB of hardrive there. Contact me if you would being interested. If its not a secret, could you tell us what your monthly voulmes are? I also know of a few possible hosting options but the biggy is how much? How much b/w you using? How much disk space you need? Do you have any alternative way to donate for people who can't or won't use PayPal? When I tried signing up for PayPal last year, they wouldn't validate my credit card and froze my account for a while with no good reason. Eventually they unfroze the account, but never did accept my credit cards so that the only way I could use the account would be to transfer money in from my bank account. But by then I had read enough horror stories about PayPal, which is widely known for arbitrarily and capriciously locking people out of their own accounts and requiring the navigation of a Kafkaesque bureaucracy to get your money back, all in the name of security, while letting real crooks and con artists run rampant anyway, that I had no desire to trust one cent of my money to those people. I'll contribute to Mozillazine if you provide some method of doing so that doesn't involve giving any business or trust to those jerks. I cant find information on how to donate! How do we do it? notice the big box at the top of the mozillazine.org main page? Of course I see the big box, but that box does not give any clue as to how to contribute. So the question still stands, how does one contribute? click the "Paypal Donate" button A non-PayPal option would be helpful. Many people have had problems getting their CC to work with PayPal and bankdrafts take forever. And some people simply do not like using Paypal anymore. See http://www.paypalwarning.com for more horror stories. How about posting an address people can mail your a check to if they need a non-PayPal option? Since your worst problem seems to be bandwidth, why not send compressed data to the visitors? You should be able to cut down your bandwidth usage by 75% or more. cmd> GET /talkback.html?article=2111 HTTP/1.0 cmd> Host: www.mozillazine.org cmd> text/html => talkback.html RequestDone Error = 0 StatusCode = 200 Received 29146 bytes hdr>HTTP/1.1 200 OK hdr>Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 14:39:33 GMT hdr>Server: Apache-ADTI/1.3.22 (Unix) mod_gzip/1.3.19.1a mod_throttle/3.1.2 PHP/4.0.6 mod_ssl/2.8.5 OpenSSL/0.9.6b hdr>X-Powered-By: PHP/4.0.6 hdr>Connection: close hdr>Content-Type: text/html I have been using VERIO as my host (via a buddy of mine - sub-host) for the last 6 months and am very pleased with their service. It\'s reliable and their support is VERY responsive and professional. You can go to www.Verio.com or better, talk to my buddy Alex Kahl who will be glad and quick to respond to your questions. Name: Alex Kahl e-mail: Kah@Kahl.net web: www.kahl.net Hope this helps, Peter Lairo Hi Just wondering, have you looked for free hosting solutions? Maybe SunSITE.dk could be a help. It is free, it is banner free, it is open source hosting solutions and much more. If it sounds interesting, contact staff@sunsite.dk with information on your needs etc. Take a look at http://sunsite.dk for more information. Regards, Thomas Rasmussen mod_expire and mod_gzip. Combined they will probable save you 70-90% of all html transfers and images wil prob drop to about 50%! All while provinding faster pages for your viewers! You can download it now from mozilla.org ;o) . If you put Asa's latest build comment on the first page, I would usually only have to view one page one per day instead of two. I come here every single day to get Asa's build comments so that I know what builds are okay to download and what is new with each build. Also, you might consider moving more of the formatting of the pages to the CSS page so that there is less to download each time I download a page (e.g. big FONT tags, nested tables, etc. can all be reduced with CSS). Even though they are GZIP-compressed before sending, doing this could reduce the page sizes even further. Is it the Mozilla downloads causing the problem or is it page views? Could it be as simple as distributing heavy-traffic items to a number of mirror sites and throttling access to the primary server?
#23 OT: (location bar URL + Enter => new tab) == awfulby thomanski Sunday December 23rd, 2001 7:14 PM I noticed that entering a new URL in 0.9.6/7 always opens a new tab. I assume (and hope) this is a bug rather than a feature. Is it? I can't find it in bugzilla. #24 Re: OT: (location bar URL + Enter => new tab) == aby jsgremlin Sunday December 23rd, 2001 7:22 PM sounds like you have the pref "open tabs instead of windows for: Control + Enter in the URL bar." enabled. it's in Navigator > Tabbed Browsing. turn that off and you should be ok - that feature itself is still buggy last I checked. MozillaNews is still up at http://www.mozillanews.org/ look forward to seeing our friends back here. I guess mozillazine took the money and ran. =) Site hasn't been updated in more than 8 days. Jason@mozillazine.org, while we are waiting for your site to be extricated, I think you should create a "news item" for people to post suggestions of ways to make the new MozillaZine better than the old one. That will keep the site active and decrease the chance of you losing viewers. If that does not work then I think you should label the entire site as "beta." Then they will wait up to three years for it to be ready. I created a Hosting talk fourms.. you can post there all "Fraud, Abuse & Illegal Hostings" thank you |