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Saturday December 1st, 2001

We've been working hard to get the Talkback Forums up and running, and we've gotten them to a point where we want to show them to you. We're still working on a variety of issues like a flat mode and user authentication, so expect to see those hopefully soon. If you can think of another forum that you'd like to see created, let us know. Also, feel free to comment on what else you'd like to see in the forums, and on the site.


#1 forum toolbar change

by thegoldenear

Saturday December 1st, 2001 7:45 PM

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\\\'Go to Topic Listing\\\' in the Forum toolbar should say \\\'Topic Listing\\\' bcos the fact its a link implies you\\\'ll \\\"go to\\\" it

#24 Re: forum toolbar change

by beastie

Wednesday December 5th, 2001 3:37 PM

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Actually it should be "Topic List", since the link beside it is "Forum List".

#2 Forums and BuildBar

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Saturday December 1st, 2001 8:15 PM

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There are a number of new discussion forums linked to in the sidebar at the right of this page. One of these forums is the Build Bar discussion forum. It looks like there is now a direct link to the Build Bar discussion in the BuildBar at the top of the front page of mozillazine :) If you've got comments about the daily builds or about my BuildBar comments please use this new forum. If you've got ideas about how to make the BuildBar better, which builds I should be linking to, the kinds of comments you want from me (or the ones you don't) then the new Build Bar forum is the place for you :)

--Asa

#3 MozillaQuest

by AlexBishop <alex@mozillazine.org>

Saturday December 1st, 2001 10:09 PM

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We need a forum for bashing MozillaQuest. ;-)

Alex

#5 Re: MozillaQuest

by alge

Sunday December 2nd, 2001 9:07 AM

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Isn't that what we've got MozillaQuestQuest for? *ponder*

#21 well...

by jensend <jensend@iname.com>

Wednesday December 5th, 2001 4:53 AM

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The best way to bash MozillaQuest is to ignore it completely and to ensure that people don't start finding that unspeakable site and believing what it says. If "Mike Angelo" finds that people start jumping up and down and shouting "WHAT A MORON" at the top of their lungs whenever he posts things, he will probably keep posting just because he wants attention.

#4 Timezone for postings ?

by rkl

Sunday December 2nd, 2001 6:29 AM

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Are there any plans to put the timezone (e.g. PDT, EST, GMT, whatever) in the date/time of postings to these various forums ? It's just that living the UK, I don't know whether it's UK time, eastern US time, central US time or western US time that the time refers to...

#9 Re: Timezone for postings ?

by AlexBishop <alex@mozillazine.org>

Sunday December 2nd, 2001 3:19 PM

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I believe the timezone is EST (GMT -0500).

Alex

#6 Diferents Eviroments

by Lancer

Sunday December 2nd, 2001 10:15 AM

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Would Mozilla give us the choice to choose between diferents enviroments

like: -full screen -one of each toolbar and menu on the screen and the windows only to display the pages -A floating sidebar

#7 spam

by shin

Sunday December 2nd, 2001 1:08 PM

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I guess you're spamming. You've typed this over and over in multiple threads. Please query Bugzilla, and submit a bug about that if need be. Posting your RFE in EVERY thread isn't going to help.

#10 Re: spam

by Lancer

Sunday December 2nd, 2001 4:08 PM

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GRGRGRGRGRGRGRGR...

#8 New posts suggestion

by AlexBishop <alex@mozillazine.org>

Sunday December 2nd, 2001 1:20 PM

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New forum posts get "new" placed next to them. It would be nice if when a forum has unread messages in it then "new" gets placed next to it on the Available Forums page as well.

Alex

#11 Gecko size (off topic)

by macpeep

Monday December 3rd, 2001 12:37 PM

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In slightly unrelated news, it seems some guys have made a really small version of Gecko!

<http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/…ewsid_1689000/1689313.stm>

#12 Re: Gecko size (off topic)

by AlexBishop <alex@mozillazine.org>

Monday December 3rd, 2001 2:21 PM

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But can it render XML styled with a CSS stylesheet?

Alex

#13 Re: Re: Gecko size (off topic)

by macpeep

Monday December 3rd, 2001 2:33 PM

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No, but it also doesn't have memory leaks..

#14 Re: Re: Re: Gecko size (off topic)

by Tanyel <tanyel@straightblack.com>

Monday December 3rd, 2001 7:22 PM

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It may be small enough to fit on a single penny now but after two years of growing, it will probably require several pennies to hold it all. Also, the architecture does not seem very open for feature enhancement. I think it would be better to focus on other lizards until this one is in its final stages.

#15 Re: Gecko size (off topic)

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Monday December 3rd, 2001 8:30 PM

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Maybe we can get them to jon forces with tuxia :) <http://www.tuxia.com/Nanozilla.htm>

#16 nested comments

by jilles

Tuesday December 4th, 2001 1:13 AM

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I guess I'm spoiled from reading slashdot too much. However, the one feature I still miss on Mozillazine is the nested comment feature. When I saw this thread, the first thing I did was check whether it was added. Sadly no. The reason I like nested so much is that it allows you to see the entire discussion (flat mode) at once without losing the structure (threaded mode).

Otherwise it's a nice update.

#18 Re: nested comments

by strauss

Tuesday December 4th, 2001 9:47 AM

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> the one feature I still miss on Mozillazine is the nested comment feature.

Yeah, that\'s how I always read /. as well. The new forums require me to wait four seconds between each message. That\'s just not a good use of my bandwidth. I\'d rather bring the whole thread up in the background and then look at it all at once.

#17 Forum name missing in topics page ?

by rkl

Tuesday December 4th, 2001 5:35 AM

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When I click a Forum in the main forum list page, I go into that forum and get a list of Topics. However, on that topic list page, the name of the Forum itself (General, Bugs etc.) is completely missing !

Seems like a humungous oversight to me :-) The Forum name should also be on the individual message pages too of course (also missing from there). It's no wonder people keep posting to the wrong Forums all the time and have to be told off by Asa over and over again :-) :-)

The only other problem, which a lot of people seem to be encountering, is the inability to hyperlink to a site in a Forum posting :-(

#19 Re: Forum name missing in topics page ?

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Tuesday December 4th, 2001 12:23 PM

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I think that's why it says "Beta" next to the link. I'm sure that kerz and chrisn are still working to iron out the kinks. I just noticed that the "Go to topic listing" link that was in different places depending on which level you were at has been fixed.

--Asa

#22 Re: Forum name missing in topics page ?

by kerz <jason@mozillazine.org>

Wednesday December 5th, 2001 12:18 PM

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Your wish is my command. Forum names now show up at the top of every forum specific page. Also, to link you have to put the link in between brackets, < link://goes/here >, as the software doesn\'t like actual html links.

jason

#20 Add /html/head/link elements to the fourms

by kipp

Tuesday December 4th, 2001 2:27 PM

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How about adding the /html/head/link elements to the forums so that you can navigate using the buttons generated by the "Site Navigation Bar".

PS: has anyone thought of mapping some keystrokes to the various buttons in the "Site Navigation Bar" so that you can hit something like "Ctrl-Left Arrow" for "Back", "Ctrl-Right arrow" for "Next", etc...

#23 o.t.: Bookmark manager rewrite landed !

by dipa

Wednesday December 5th, 2001 3:10 PM

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The difference in speed is extremely noticeable.

#26 Re: o.t.: Bookmark manager rewrite landed !

by sconest

Thursday December 6th, 2001 6:02 AM

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Especially on my P2-350 with a 200kB bookmark file :) Big thanks to Blake Ross

#25 Forums

by Tanyel <tanyel@straightblack.com>

Wednesday December 5th, 2001 5:08 PM

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I think there should be a Tanyel forum. Every website should have one.

#27 Linkify bug

by sconest

Thursday December 6th, 2001 9:03 AM

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A nice features in the forums would the transformation of bug xxx into a link, like bugzilla does.

#28 Re: Linkify bug (ack... bad spelling and grammar)

by sconest

Thursday December 6th, 2001 9:04 AM

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A nice feature in the forums would be the transformation of "bug xxx" into a link, like bugzilla does.

#29 Re: Re: Linkify bug (ack... bad spelling and gramm

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Thursday December 6th, 2001 11:36 AM

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There is a bug filed against Bugzilla to provide a linkify service that could be used by other sites like Bonsai, <http://www.mozilla.org> and maybe mozillazine.org. Time would be better spent working on the generic service rather than hacking it into mozillazine.

--Asa

#30 Linkify service?

by theuiguy

Thursday December 6th, 2001 11:53 AM

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What exactly is this linkify service? Do you have the bug number, please? Is this just a module of code that creates links? Or is it something that queries bugzilla and retrieves the appropriate bug title, status, etc.? It'd be nice if it'd generate links with all the formating and title attributes that we know and love from bugzilla, but just converting bug #### into a link in the forums would be better than nothing here.

#31 Re: Linkify bug

by sconest

Thursday December 6th, 2001 2:24 PM

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For other people, I think I found the bug Asa talked about : bug 101864 <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101864> . Thanks for pointing that.

#32 second bug for this, acutally newer

by niner

Thursday December 6th, 2001 4:34 PM

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There are actually two bugs filed for this linkify utility. The first is the one you pointet out ( bug 101864 ). The second is the one I'm working on: bug 108987 <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108987> Mine is a part of Bugzilla and the former is a script that uses Bugzilla output to accomplish the task so it can be integrated in other sides.

I hope someone finds some time to review my litte script so it can be checked into Bugzilla so it can finally help :)

#34 In the mean time

by TimHunt <T.J.Hunt@open.ac.uk>

Friday December 7th, 2001 4:05 AM

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Remeber that you can configure Mozilla so that when you type "bug 101864" into the location bar it takes you stright to that bug:

<http://www.mozilla.org/docs/end-user/keywords.html>

Not as good as what is planned here, but still useful.

Tim.

#35 Re: Linkify bug

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Friday December 7th, 2001 3:12 PM

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You can go here and add Jesse's "buglinkify" bookmarklet to your personal toolbar. Then just click the link and magically all of the numbers on the page will become buglinks.

--Asa

#36 Re: Linkify bug

by sconest

Friday December 7th, 2001 6:31 PM

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You mean here : <http://www.squarefree.com…bookmarklets/mozilla.html> , I guess :) Thanks again.

#33 Show date of newest post

by gwalla <gwalla@despammed.com>

Thursday December 6th, 2001 6:09 PM

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It would be handy if the main page would show the date (and maybe time, although that would be less useful) of the most recent posting under each topic. That way it would be easier to see if something has been posted since the last time you read the topic.

#37 I spent hours searching on MozillaZine...

by shin

Saturday December 8th, 2001 10:10 AM

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...so a Search feature, to find old articles and comments, should be there. After all, isn't it one of the first features of a news publishing system ?

#38 "TALKBACK" link at top of home page not clear...

by rkl

Tuesday December 11th, 2001 3:46 PM

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Poor old Asa, he's having to tell people not to post off-topic stuff in the Build Bar forum all the time :-) The reason why ? Well, the "main" link on the home page of Mozillazine for forums for the casual reader is actually the "TALKBACK" link on the Build Bar (the more general Forums link is 'buried' on the right-hand panel amongst a bunch of other links).

So people click "TALKBACK" thinking it's a general talkback forum and post their stuff, only to be told off by Asa :-) Yes, I know the forum topics page does now tell you the forum name, but it's easily overlooked - it should be in a larger, bold font and the forum name should be in the document title (instead of the generic "MozillaZien Talkback Forums" title) as well as the reverse video link that currently says "Topics" (should say "Topics in XXXX Forum" surely ?). In other words, make it *very* obvious which forum you're in, rather than only barely obvious like it is now.

Solutuon: Change "TALKBACK" link on the Build Bar to "BUILD BAR TALKBACK FORUM" or something nice and clear like this. variou

#39 and...

by niner

Wednesday December 12th, 2001 8:10 AM

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maybe make the forumname blink and introduce a flash intro with a cool animation showing you that this is the build bar forum and of course it needs sound ;)

Okay maybe it's sufficient if it would be made more obvious that there are other forums. Maybe move the link to the build bar forum on the build comments page and put a user forums link to the right of the build bar. People who would like to comment on build surely read the build comments so they still find the link to the forum.