Forums Arrive!Saturday December 1st, 2001We've been working hard to get the Talkback Forums up and running, and we've gotten them to a point where we want to show them to you. We're still working on a variety of issues like a flat mode and user authentication, so expect to see those hopefully soon. If you can think of another forum that you'd like to see created, let us know. Also, feel free to comment on what else you'd like to see in the forums, and on the site. \\\'Go to Topic Listing\\\' in the Forum toolbar should say \\\'Topic Listing\\\' bcos the fact its a link implies you\\\'ll \\\"go to\\\" it There are a number of new discussion forums linked to in the sidebar at the right of this page. One of these forums is the Build Bar discussion forum. It looks like there is now a direct link to the Build Bar discussion in the BuildBar at the top of the front page of mozillazine :) If you've got comments about the daily builds or about my BuildBar comments please use this new forum. If you've got ideas about how to make the BuildBar better, which builds I should be linking to, the kinds of comments you want from me (or the ones you don't) then the new Build Bar forum is the place for you :) --Asa We need a forum for bashing MozillaQuest. ;-) Alex The best way to bash MozillaQuest is to ignore it completely and to ensure that people don't start finding that unspeakable site and believing what it says. If "Mike Angelo" finds that people start jumping up and down and shouting "WHAT A MORON" at the top of their lungs whenever he posts things, he will probably keep posting just because he wants attention. Are there any plans to put the timezone (e.g. PDT, EST, GMT, whatever) in the date/time of postings to these various forums ? It's just that living the UK, I don't know whether it's UK time, eastern US time, central US time or western US time that the time refers to... Would Mozilla give us the choice to choose between diferents enviroments like: -full screen -one of each toolbar and menu on the screen and the windows only to display the pages -A floating sidebar I guess you're spamming. You've typed this over and over in multiple threads. Please query Bugzilla, and submit a bug about that if need be. Posting your RFE in EVERY thread isn't going to help. New forum posts get "new" placed next to them. It would be nice if when a forum has unread messages in it then "new" gets placed next to it on the Available Forums page as well. Alex In slightly unrelated news, it seems some guys have made a really small version of Gecko! http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1689000/1689313.stm But can it render XML styled with a CSS stylesheet? Alex No, but it also doesn't have memory leaks.. It may be small enough to fit on a single penny now but after two years of growing, it will probably require several pennies to hold it all. Also, the architecture does not seem very open for feature enhancement. I think it would be better to focus on other lizards until this one is in its final stages. I guess I'm spoiled from reading slashdot too much. However, the one feature I still miss on Mozillazine is the nested comment feature. When I saw this thread, the first thing I did was check whether it was added. Sadly no. The reason I like nested so much is that it allows you to see the entire discussion (flat mode) at once without losing the structure (threaded mode). Otherwise it's a nice update. > the one feature I still miss on Mozillazine is the nested comment feature. Yeah, that\'s how I always read /. as well. The new forums require me to wait four seconds between each message. That\'s just not a good use of my bandwidth. I\'d rather bring the whole thread up in the background and then look at it all at once. When I click a Forum in the main forum list page, I go into that forum and get a list of Topics. However, on that topic list page, the name of the Forum itself (General, Bugs etc.) is completely missing ! Seems like a humungous oversight to me :-) The Forum name should also be on the individual message pages too of course (also missing from there). It's no wonder people keep posting to the wrong Forums all the time and have to be told off by Asa over and over again :-) :-) The only other problem, which a lot of people seem to be encountering, is the inability to hyperlink to a site in a Forum posting :-( I think that's why it says "Beta" next to the link. I'm sure that kerz and chrisn are still working to iron out the kinks. I just noticed that the "Go to topic listing" link that was in different places depending on which level you were at has been fixed. --Asa Your wish is my command. Forum names now show up at the top of every forum specific page. Also, to link you have to put the link in between brackets, < link://goes/here >, as the software doesn\'t like actual html links. jason How about adding the /html/head/link elements to the forums so that you can navigate using the buttons generated by the "Site Navigation Bar". PS: has anyone thought of mapping some keystrokes to the various buttons in the "Site Navigation Bar" so that you can hit something like "Ctrl-Left Arrow" for "Back", "Ctrl-Right arrow" for "Next", etc... The difference in speed is extremely noticeable. I think there should be a Tanyel forum. Every website should have one. A nice features in the forums would the transformation of bug xxx into a link, like bugzilla does. #28 Re: Linkify bug (ack... bad spelling and grammar)by sconest Thursday December 6th, 2001 9:04 AM A nice feature in the forums would be the transformation of "bug xxx" into a link, like bugzilla does. There is a bug filed against Bugzilla to provide a linkify service that could be used by other sites like Bonsai, www.mozilla.org and maybe mozillazine.org. Time would be better spent working on the generic service rather than hacking it into mozillazine. --Asa What exactly is this linkify service? Do you have the bug number, please? Is this just a module of code that creates links? Or is it something that queries bugzilla and retrieves the appropriate bug title, status, etc.? It'd be nice if it'd generate links with all the formating and title attributes that we know and love from bugzilla, but just converting bug #### into a link in the forums would be better than nothing here. For other people, I think I found the bug Asa talked about : bug 101864 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101864 . Thanks for pointing that. There are actually two bugs filed for this linkify utility. The first is the one you pointet out ( bug 101864 ). The second is the one I'm working on: bug 108987 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108987 Mine is a part of Bugzilla and the former is a script that uses Bugzilla output to accomplish the task so it can be integrated in other sides. I hope someone finds some time to review my litte script so it can be checked into Bugzilla so it can finally help :) You can go here and add Jesse's "buglinkify" bookmarklet to your personal toolbar. Then just click the link and magically all of the numbers on the page will become buglinks. --Asa It would be handy if the main page would show the date (and maybe time, although that would be less useful) of the most recent posting under each topic. That way it would be easier to see if something has been posted since the last time you read the topic. ...so a Search feature, to find old articles and comments, should be there. After all, isn't it one of the first features of a news publishing system ? Poor old Asa, he's having to tell people not to post off-topic stuff in the Build Bar forum all the time :-) The reason why ? Well, the "main" link on the home page of Mozillazine for forums for the casual reader is actually the "TALKBACK" link on the Build Bar (the more general Forums link is 'buried' on the right-hand panel amongst a bunch of other links). So people click "TALKBACK" thinking it's a general talkback forum and post their stuff, only to be told off by Asa :-) Yes, I know the forum topics page does now tell you the forum name, but it's easily overlooked - it should be in a larger, bold font and the forum name should be in the document title (instead of the generic "MozillaZien Talkback Forums" title) as well as the reverse video link that currently says "Topics" (should say "Topics in XXXX Forum" surely ?). In other words, make it *very* obvious which forum you're in, rather than only barely obvious like it is now. Solutuon: Change "TALKBACK" link on the Build Bar to "BUILD BAR TALKBACK FORUM" or something nice and clear like this. variou maybe make the forumname blink and introduce a flash intro with a cool animation showing you that this is the build bar forum and of course it needs sound ;) Okay maybe it's sufficient if it would be made more obvious that there are other forums. Maybe move the link to the build bar forum on the build comments page and put a user forums link to the right of the build bar. People who would like to comment on build surely read the build comments so they still find the link to the forum. |