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Mozilla 0.9.6 Released

Tuesday November 20th, 2001

mozilla.org today made available for download binaries of the Mozilla 0.9.6 Milestone. The builds are available on the releases page, or you can get them directly from the ftp site.

New to this milestone are fixes for about 1,600 bugs including support for site icons in both the url bar and tabs (expect IE's favicons to show up in 0.9.7), displaying both Windows Bitmap (.bmp) and Windows Icon (.ico) files inline on all platforms, a new print preview implementation, Page Setup improvements on the Macintosh, Mail message 'labels' (Correction: This feature is not fully complete, only parts of the backed have landed.), and a new select and search context menu item, among others. If you are interested in more information on any of these new features, be sure to check out the release notes.

Also, mozilla.org last week released the source code on which Netscape 6.2 was based.


#221 Re: Mozilla vs Amaya

by tny

Monday November 26th, 2001 6:50 AM

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Amaya is a standards-compliant browser-editor being developed by the W3C as a testbed for W3C technologies. It has a few features I'd love to see in Mozilla 2.0: the editing window is the same as the browsing window, so one can just pull up a page, edit it, save it, and reload it all in the same window (the default save method is HTTP PUT), and can open other windows for source and tree views. The document is parsed and stored as a tree, then outputted in (by default) XHTML when saved. It has a working Annotea implementation (Annozilla doesn't work for me), partial SVG support, partial MathML support, good XML support, and partial Unicode support (the only thing that even approaches the quality of Mozilla is the XML support - XML works fine with CSS; haven't looked into XSLT yet, but I don't think they've touched XSLT yet). However, the CSS support is partial, it lacks a quirks mode or SSL (an absolute necessity for a commercial product), it needs a LOT of work on the UI, needs some work on Unicode support, lacks a mail agent, requires Motif or a Motif clone on Unices (it's not available for OS 9 or any other non-Unix, non-Windows OSes that I know of), and pretty much all of the features are Not Ready for Prime Time. However, if you want an easy to use WYSIWYG editor for text oriented or simple CSS pages that will NOT permit you to create an invalid page no matter what you do, Amaya is a good place to start. (Indeed, I think it's best use would be as a tool for teaching someone how to do markup).

Comparing Mozilla's quality to Amaya's is insulting to the Mozilla team; there are only 3 or 4 developers working on Amaya, and it shows. The work they've done given their resources is excellent, but Amaya is at best a good midpoint between Lynx and Mozilla with a few 21st-century features. And it's not really intended for end-users, only for use as an editor and, as I said above, a test-bed.

The address is <http://www.w3.org/Amaya/>

BTW, Annotea is a great technology. I'd love to see that integrated into the Mozilla tree after 1.0 branches. And I think the tabbed browsing feature and replaceable toolbars would make a true browser-editor style interface, like Amaya's or AOLPress's, a much more powerful way of browsing and editing (again, AFTER 1.0 is gold).