Full Article Attached Mail/News Performance Effort Underway

Friday November 2nd, 2001

Seth Spitzer today sent an update out about what the Mail/News team is doing to meet their goals for Mozilla 1.0. They'll be focusing almost 100% of their effort for at least the next two milestones (0.9.7, 0.9.8) on Footprint and Performance of the various parts of Mail, News, and Addressbook. Not only will they be focusing on it, they'll also be locking down their part of the tree and only accepting performance or footprint fixes. Very few exceptions will be made. Click the Full Article link to see Seth's full post.

#127 Re: Re: prove it.

by roc <>

Wednesday November 7th, 2001 3:49 PM

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Matthew Thomas recently posted a rather large laundry list of work done by non-Netscape people, and most of that was done by people not paid by anyone to work on Mozilla. Plus, as I've repeatedly observed before, you'd see a lot more non-Netscape and non-corporate Mozilla contributions if Netscape would just stop hiring all the good contributors :-).

Your thesis that volunteer-driven open source projects are not successful is wrong, because you have misinterpreted the evidence. GCC, GNOME, and Linux started out as volunteer projects and were so successful that businesses sprung up and started paying people to work on them. In other words, volunteer-driven projects can and do succeed, but one result of that success is that people can get paid instead of volunteering. (BTW, KDE is an excellent example of a project that has little corporate involvement and yet is very successful.)

StarOffice and Mozilla belong to a different breed of project than any of the above. These are projects of larger scope than most other open source projects, where there is an existing closed source code base and a large established closed-source development organization. This is definitely a lot harder to make work. It seems to take a long time to adjust processes, tools, culture and code to make it easy for contributors to ramp up and for a community to develop. I think Mozilla is still gradually improving there, and no doubt OpenOffice still has a long way to go along that road. Anyway, you can't easily generalize lessons from OpenOffice and Mozilla to volunteer-born projects, nor vice versa I suspect.