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Microsoft and Federal Government Reach Tentative Settlement

Wednesday October 31st, 2001

MSNBC is reporting that Microsoft has reached a tentative settlement with the Federal Government. The deal calls for a 5 year consent decree that forces Microsoft to release Windows without a variety of currently bundled programs like Internet Explorer, MSN Messenger, and Windows Media Player.

As you may know, the US Government has had consent decrees before, and Microsoft has completely ignored them, we feel. As in the past, we expect the version of Windows without the bundled packages to be almost identical in price to the current version of Windows. The last major question remaining is whether the State Attorneys General agree with the deal. We hope they do not, and push for much harsher punishment.


#55 Nope

by Kovu <Kovu401@netscape.net>

Saturday November 3rd, 2001 8:56 PM

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>>The conspiracy theory remains silly and overwrought. I doubt you have a foot in the business world, am I right?

No, you're wrong. I have a pretty good "foot" in publishing, particularly technical publishing.

>>What brought Netscape low was Netscape.

I never questioned that, or even mentioned what brought Netscape down. The fact you still have yet to address is that AOL KEPT Netscape low.

>>I know a number of people who have worked there.

I know a number of people who work there now. SO WHAT?

>>It's pretty much as described in the press -- constant crisis mode, no real planning, no process to speak of, no accountability, major culture of programming heroism. In short, a recipe for disaster. That's why their products couldn't compete -- CMM level 0 is no basis for developing large software projects. (Funny, all the founders' other projects seem to have gone the same way.)

All irrelevant. Again, I'm talking about post-AOL acquisition, not pre-acquisition. And if Netscape was responsible for its own demise as you claim here, why are you sniveling elsewhere that the punishment - for a crime you evidently think didn't exist, if Netscape "brought itself down" - isn't significant enough?

>>You still seem unable to grasp the idea that Mozilla in CI$ is a _trial_run_.

Look, you've so entirely missed the point. My point has nothing to do with the beta itself, but more the fact that they're being so quiet about the whole business. You'd think AOL would want more people to know that they were going to dump IE and use their OWN GD BROWSER. They have hardly breathed a word and the only things they HAVE said were due to leaked internal memos. The "komodo" documents. Indeed, I seem to remember you arguing six months ago on THIS VERY TOPIC that I was full of it, that Compuserve WASN'T using Gecko, that it was unsubstantiated rumor on my part. I know it's a "trial run", I'm using it. I also happen to think there's ZERO chance of AOL continuing to use IE, Barry Schuler even said they would use it when they got the bugs worked out. But it's all this secretive shuffling that I'm pointing to; they're not discussing it at all unless they have to, because (AGAIN!) they don't want to disrupt the trial. My opinion.

And oh, EOC yourself. You're the one that plays Devil's advocate to pretty much EVERY post here. This is my opinion. If you want to argue it, I'll argue back.