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Monday October 22nd, 2001

Many of you are familiar with the Bug Day's that we started a few years ago. Well, with the number of people wanting to help out skyrocketing these last few months, gerv@mozilla.org and others have decided that a bug week was in order. They'll be running it from Saturday October 27th to Sunday November 4th, and they'll have plenty of smart people on hand to help folks learn the bug system, learn how to use the various other web tools, and of course, learn some tips on how to contribute code to the Mozilla effort. Click the Full Article link to get all the details.


#45 I'm not blinking

by mpthomas

Thursday October 25th, 2001 12:50 AM

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Gerv, I am aware of the endless Strait of Messina which <staff@mozilla.org> are having to navigate. I think they are doing the best job possible under the circumstances, and their problems would be present no matter who was on board.

> Look at our newsgroups - a sea of "Waah!

A large proportion of that problem (though assuredly not all of it) is because the newsgroup reorganization <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62228> hasn't taken place yet. So there isn't a mozilla.users group for non-developers to idly chat in, so they clutter up the developer groups instead. And whose fault is it that the newsgroup reorganization hasn't taken place yet? Not mine, not yours, and not <staff@mozilla.org>'s ...

> One of the big reasons why they think it's a hassle has been the whole UI mess.

Bah. Most of the messiness of Mozilla's UI is Netscape's fault. :-) (Seen the P3P UI lately? Phwoooarrr.)

> Where are the large contributions made from outside Netscape we can point to to show the value of the open source process?

Bi-di. MathML. SVG (in progress). Substantial work on font handling, the build process, the DOM, browser front end architecture, the address book, and (I'm sure) other unsexy things which I've never seen. Hundreds of polish fixes which a paid employee wouldn't have time to work on. Most of the improvements to Bugzilla in the past couple of years. The continuing work of master hackers such as Mike Shaver after they leave Netscape. A mountain of QA and triage work. A much easier job for Netscape's HR department, as they can pick from the best Mozilla contributors (Blake Ross, Stephen Donner, Peter Anemma, Jesse Ruderman, et al.) rather than relying on references from possibly non-existent previous employers. A veritable battalion of evangelists. A future.

> So, if you care about the project, start working on bugs in the 1.0 meta-bug dependency tree.

The 1.0 meta-bug dependency tree <http://bugzilla.mozilla.o…endencytree.cgi?id=103705> currently leaves me with nothing to do.

-- mpt