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Gecko Appearing in Compuserve Betas

Thursday October 18th, 2001

AOL today confirmed that Gecko has been embedding into beta versions of CompuServe 7, according to this news.com article. AOL 7 was released yesterday, still with IE as its embedded browser, but because CompuServe's software seems to be much like the AOL software, it's likely that we could also see AOL sporting Gecko as it's browser in the future.


#96 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What's depressing...

by strauss

Tuesday October 23rd, 2001 1:15 PM

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strauss>> XUL's not a web standard. In fact it's not even distributed. It requires a client-side install. <<

joschi>> XUL is a great example of what open web standards have brought us as it is implemented using established web standards like XML, XSL, CSS and the DOM. <<

That's nice, but you haven't answered the basic issue. XUL content does not distribute over the web like a web page. It requires an installation step on the client. So it's not particularly useful for ASP-model developers. Like me.

>> It simply does not crash as often as the buggy and feature-incomplete browser known as IE, and when it does it doesn't bring down my whole OS. <<

It crashes much more often than IE on the Mac or Windows for me. IE on Windows simply doesn't crash, while IE on Mac only rarely crashes (and usually only after a network configuration change or laptop wakeup -- I think it's really an Open Transport problem). Mozilla crashed within a few hours of use last time I tried it, losing me a half-hour's worth of data in progress, bringing my whole system down, and then refusing to start up (and again crashing my whole system) next time I tried to start it.

>> Not to mention it is the nicest dhtml development environment out there with its intergrated javascript console and debugger. Testing pages in ie is just a nightmare. <<

Microsoft Script Debugger works pretty well for me on Windows. It's not 100% but it lets me quickly find the cause of almost all script problems. Occasionally it flakes out. I haven't tried the JS debugger on Mozilla but if it works well on the Mac then that would be a win for Mozilla. However, that win would be more than offset by the general instability of Mozilla on the Mac.

>> you still have yet to say anything that you cannot do with the standards supported in Mozilla. <<

Yes, I have. How about onscroll to start? Look upthread if your memory fails you.