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SeaMonkey 1.1 Released

Thursday January 18th, 2007

Robert Kaiser writes: "SeaMonkey 1.1 is now available. Powered by the same engine as Firefox 2 and the upcoming Thunderbird 2, SeaMonkey 1.1 includes numerous enhancements including more visible security indicators in the browser, enhanced phishing detection for e-mail, a new tagging system for e-mail, support for multi-line tooltips, image preview in tab tooltips, inline spell checking in the browser, an updated version of ChatZilla and a significantly improved startup script on Linux."

For more information, refer to the SeaMonkey 1.1 Release Notes


#1 *oops*

by roseman

Friday January 19th, 2007 7:02 PM

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Seamonkey 1.1 started locking up my system. Up thru Seamoneky 1.0.7 i have previously had no installation problems.

The Bookmark managing in Seamonkey (the old Mozilla Suite) is so much better than in Firefox that i use Seamonkey as my default browser.

But unfortunately, this SeaMonkey release seems to conflict with my favorite theme (Walnut), so i cannot use it at all. (No, i am not giving up my favorite theme).

*grumble*

i have had to switch back to 1.0.7 until this can be resolved.

The drop down menus on the main toolbar would be partially transparent, and even hovering over the word "Bookmarks" would not only lock up Seamonkey but also windows itself as well, to where task manager could barely shut it down. Even the tray did not wor.

I am a loyal Seamonkey fan. I want the "new" one. I must wait until the new one and my favorite theme decide they can "just get along".

#2 Re: *oops*

by buff

Saturday January 20th, 2007 9:54 AM

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When you are tying to test out problems always switch to a default theme such as Classic. If the problem goes away with the default theme then your theme needs to be updated.

#6 How is the Seamonkey bookmark managing better?

by johann_p

Sunday January 21st, 2007 1:41 AM

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Can you please point out the differences and what you find better in the Seamonkey bookmarking system? I played around a bit and do not find that many differences, and all the features I'd like to see in a bookmarking system are absent from both Firefox and Seamonkey :)

#8 Re: How is the Seamonkey bookmark managing better?

by BenoitRen

Sunday January 21st, 2007 4:48 AM

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From reading a previous message of his, I gathered that it was because SeaMonkey lets you assign keywords to bookmarks. Maybe even more, as I see that you can instruct SeaMonkey to check for bookmark updates, which sounds useful.

#9 Keywords ...

by johann_p

Sunday January 21st, 2007 7:38 AM

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I see a "keyword" field for both Firefox and Seamonkey Bookmark properties ....

As far as I know there was some work to implement tags for Firefox bookmarks and change the backend to SQLite, which would have been good to have in 2.0. Not sure what the status is now.

For bookmark updates, there is FF extension, AFAIK.

#10 Re: *oops*

by kuhlejai

Sunday January 21st, 2007 9:42 AM

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It turns out you can install the Walnut theme in SM 1.1. Go to the following link:

<http://forums.mozillazine…rg/viewtopic.php?t=509869>

The instructions are given for Nautipolis, but all you have to do is make simple changes and Walnut will run fine.

#29 Re: *oops*

by dan123

Friday January 26th, 2007 2:35 AM

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It could be incompatible extensions your profile. If you make a new one and there aren't any problems, move your bookmarks, cookies, history, passwords etc... to the new profile.

#30 Re: Re: *oops*

by BenoitRen

Friday January 26th, 2007 11:37 AM

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You don't have to abandon your profile to get rid of extensions. Just delete the chrome folder.

#34 Re: Re: Re: *oops* chromeless,,,ummmmmmmm ?

by roseman

Monday January 29th, 2007 2:25 PM

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if i delete my chrome folder, will i lose all extensions? can i just rename it, in case it does not help, maybe i could restore previous settings? or must i dlete it (or would renaming it ruin it anyways) ?

properly speaking, it was a "theme" that didnt work with SM-1.1; ...would the theme also be affected by the chrome folder, in the same manner as the "extensions" are?

i did try making a new profile, exact same behaviour *sniff*

thanx for any all help so far and in future... :)

#35 Re: Re: Re: Re: *oops* chromeless,,,ummmmmmmm ?

by BenoitRen

Tuesday January 30th, 2007 9:50 AM

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Yes, deleting the chrome folder will remove all extensions (and themes). You can also edit chrome.rdf and overlay.rdf to remove individual extensions, if you like. Renaming is also possible.

The theme might be in application folder's chrome folder too... But I don't think you can delete that folder unless you also reinstall SeaMonkey.

#33 Re: Re: *oops*??

by roseman

Monday January 29th, 2007 2:22 PM

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i tried a new profile; same behavior ! :( *sniff*

#3 Why I still use SeaMonkey

by eseiti

Saturday January 20th, 2007 3:18 PM

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I still use SeaMonkey because the email reader and the browser shares the same cache files. The email reader uses the cache while the Thunderbird doesn't seem to do. This is frustrating because I have to download the same images over and over for my HTML mail.

#4 UI update

by pandronic

Sunday January 21st, 2007 1:08 AM

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Seamonkey desperately needs an UI update. Firefox users are just too accustomed to features such as the Search box, Find as you type, Addon manager, and the default team looks 10 years too old.

#5 Re:UI update

by prometeo

Sunday January 21st, 2007 1:37 AM

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UI update is coming. Extension & update manager are coming, too. Search box will hopefully never come, as useless as it is. The braindead quick find is another good candidate for infanticide, imho. FAYT is already there, even if not as flashy as FF one.

#7 Re: UI update

by BenoitRen

Sunday January 21st, 2007 4:45 AM

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-The Search box is clutter. You can search from the location bar just fine. -Find As You Type is already there -Add-Ons Manager will be there in SeaMonkey 1.5 -There will be a new default theme in SeaMonkey 1.5

#11 Re: UI Update

by kuhlejai

Sunday January 21st, 2007 9:49 AM

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As far as the search box is concerned, as others noted, it is perhaps useless. But for those who do want it, there is an Extension called Monkeymenu, which in addition to doing a lot more, does provide a search box. All of that extension's features are optional, so you could install it merely for the search box, and the extension would be, otherwise, completely transparent.

#12 search box has some use

by buff

Sunday January 21st, 2007 12:32 PM

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I wouldn't say the search box is useless. The fact that it exists in many modern browsers indicates people like it. There are some benefits actually in terms of usability. If you are just using the Seamonkey urlbar to run searches and you start to follow links you might have to type in your search query again. The search box doesn't change it allows the user to add to the query and rerun the search very quickly. The fact that people like the search box in Firefox and IE 7 says something about usability design. Not all features are designed for technical efficiency. Some feel right based on our past experiences.

#13 Re: search box has some use

by pirat

Sunday January 21st, 2007 3:53 PM

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Honestly, I've tried to use SearchBox for some time but I've found it completely useless for me - just occupying precious place and forcing me to remember another keyboard shortcut. Fortunately in Fx-1.5 at least search can be reverted back to URL-bar with almost the same fuctionality as in SM.

#14 Re: search box has some use

by moz777

Sunday January 21st, 2007 8:31 PM

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the motivation for the search box, as i see it, is for "newbie" users. As an experienced user, the mozilla/seamonkey implemention of search (location box/tab/search) is a natural fit for me. I believe the same type of search was implemented in FF hidden in about:config, but it wasn't the same when I tried it.

I'd personally, like to see native RSS support, but no biggy.

#16 Re: search box has some use

by prometeo

Monday January 22nd, 2007 1:25 AM

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Using SM urlbar for searches doesn't involve rerunning queries: just tell SM to open the sidebar for results. Oh, and by using handles (which FF/TB DON'T have for "usability"), you can simply hide/show the results at your will (or even press F9). Not even all FF users agree on the search box: that's why there are extensions to remove it. Same goes for FAYT/quick search. And IE7 wins the prize for the most confusing UI ever, with no coherence anywhere: buttons have different sizes, different styles, the new tab button has no indication of its purpose, favorites is weirdly located, etc.

#22 hide searchbox extension

by buff

Monday January 22nd, 2007 3:50 PM

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"that's why there are extensions to remove it." I was thinking you must not be a very familiar Firefox user. The searchbox can be dragged off into the customize dialog. Why would you need an extension to do this for you? ;-)

#23 Re: hide searchbox extension

by prometeo

Tuesday January 23rd, 2007 12:03 AM

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I'm not a familiar FF user, but you are refusing to admit the simple truth: if you remove the search box by customizing the toolbar, you lose the built-in search capability. This once again shows how stubborn and short-sighted this decision was. I was referring to an extension that "fuses" again location field and search box, but you simply don't want to listen: FF has many good points on its part, but search box is simply not of those (at least for non-newbie users). Oh, and the extension for FAYT is called FAYT, as you might expect.

#15 Re: UI update

by vicne

Monday January 22nd, 2007 12:57 AM

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I agree with others that I'd consider the Search Box and (to a lesser extent) FAYT GUI needless clutter, but if they were to be added as options, why not... What I miss the most is extension compatibility and management. For example, I had a hard time making AdBlockPlus work and now it does the job (congrats to the authors), but the patchy nature shows through (e.g. : AdBlockPlus status bar icon and button bar are sometimes visible in mail windows but never in browser windows). As for "Firefox users are just too accustomed to features...", I don't see the point. Different audiences, different UIs. It's not like Seamonkey is aimed at taking Firefox users back... Oh, and I, for one, don't care about themes (I couldn't even tell the name of the one I'm using right now... it's the default one and it's ok for me) :-) Kind regards, Vicne

#17 no search box

by Glanz

Monday January 22nd, 2007 7:31 AM

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It is useful only for AOL helll migrants.

#18 Was this article back-dated

by mitrich <mitrich@optonline.net>

Monday January 22nd, 2007 11:22 AM

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It seems to me that this article about SeaMonkey 1.1 was back dated. I remember looking for it on 1.18.07 and it was not there; and, I believe also 1.19.07 and it was not there. Am I mistaken???

::RSM

#28 Re: Was this article back-dated

by Nitin

Tuesday January 23rd, 2007 3:24 PM

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You're not mistaken. The date on the article is the date of submission, not the date it was activated and published on the frontpage. Its a limitation of the custom software used here - so the solution is to copy-paste the article and post at the head of the queue. I neglected this step this time.

#19 A few niggles

by Si6776

Monday January 22nd, 2007 11:42 AM

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I have reverted to 1.0.6 for now, mainly because the Roboform adapter isn't compatible with 1.1. Once they have updated that, I will reinstall 1.1, but I do have a few niggles:

1. Spellchecker dictionaries don't install properly, without unzipping the XML package, and manually installing it. Not much of an issue, but a bit of a faff, and many users won't know how to do this.

2. Alt+S no longer works as a shortcut to post in forums. This is an extremely useful feature, which I use all the time. See <http://forums.mozillazine…rg/viewtopic.php?t=446830> for fix, but why has this happened? Is it just a genuine mistake, which will be rectified in future versions? As Firefox 2.0 also suffers this affliction, I am lead to believe it was a deliberate change. Guys, if it ain't broke...

3. The address bar colour for secure websites looks like a nasty vomit yellow on my screen. Is there any way to change this to something equally noticable, but more aesthetically pleasing?

4. The new feature in the mail client that blocks some content - is there any way to turn this off? There doesn't seem to be a 'white list' type function for this, and the constant alerts will soon become tiresome.

Regards,

Simon.

#20 Re: A few niggles

by roseman

Monday January 22nd, 2007 12:23 PM

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I don't think it is supposed to be vomit yellow. I think it is supposed to be vomit green. Most monitors have color & tint adjustments :)

I check about:config in Firefox, which already was using the alternate color for the SSL (secure) pages, did not yet see any entry for changing the color of the URL when in secure (SSL) mode. Hrmmph.

#21 Re: A few niggles

by prometeo

Monday January 22nd, 2007 3:07 PM

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1) Dictionaries from AMO should install just fine (if they are certified for SM use): at least the Italian dictionary does! :-P 2) Very, very annoying. I hope SM will revert the change. 3) Depends on the theme, and is not changeable atm. 4) look in about:config if you are referring to the phishing detector, or look in the preferences to allow remote content to be loaded.

#24 Re: A few niggles

by rajbhaskar

Tuesday January 23rd, 2007 1:24 AM

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#25 Re: A few niggles

by BenoitRen

Tuesday January 23rd, 2007 4:09 AM

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This blocking of remote content isn't a new feature, it's been there for a long time. What's new is that SeaMonkey now tells you that there's remote content blocked, and offers you the option to load it anyway.

You can choose to white-list addresses that are in your address book.

#27 A few niggles

by Si6776

Tuesday January 23rd, 2007 9:23 AM

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Yes, that's what I was referring to. I think it seems to be blocking more now though, as some regular email I receive (from Yahoo Groups) always used to show all content, now it is blocked with the option to load. It's not a big deal, just an annoyance, because it's something that seems to have been put in, without the option to switch it off.

As for the dictionaries, it appeared to install the UK English dictionary, but the option then didn't appear in the actual spellchecker, until I unzipped the package and pasted it into the Dictionaries directory.

#26 Something Positive

by jailbird

Tuesday January 23rd, 2007 7:28 AM

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I guess I'm going to be the first to say something completely positive.

SeaMonkey rocks, and this new release is even better. Keep up the good work, all!

I haven't had to touch FF in a while now, and I love every second of it! :)

#31 Extensions

by michaelm <michaelmilligan@excite.com>

Saturday January 27th, 2007 2:43 PM

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I LOVE SeaMonkey!!! Will version 1.5 allow ClipMarks and the other great extensions now available for FF to be installed on SeaMonkey?

Thanks for the great product.

Mike from Utah

#32 Re: Extensions

by BenoitRen

Sunday January 28th, 2007 7:09 AM

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It'll certainly make things easier, as SeaMonkey will support the same extension install mechanism.

#36 Seamonkey

by veerakumar

Tuesday May 22nd, 2007 7:39 PM

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