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mozilla.org releases Mozilla Milestone 0.9.4

Friday September 14th, 2001

mozilla.org today released Mozilla Milestone 0.9.4. New to this release is the ability to disable the JavaScript window.open() method during page load and unload events. You can find more information on what's new at the release notes.

Builds are available on mozilla.org's download page(or go right to the FTP directory).

A recent post to the Mozilla builds newsgroup explains that Netscape will continue to check into the 0.9.4 branch. Work continues on the trunk toward Mozilla 0.9.5.


#166 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1.0 is in

by niner

Wednesday September 26th, 2001 5:07 AM

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interesting opinion about open source. Just a question: why runs half of the internet on Apache servers if they aren't successfull? And before you say something about "oh they get so much money from business". They were successful way before companies decided that they should invest money in open source software to show people how cool they are. There are many other applications that were useful long ago before the open source hype startet. Just that you weren't interested in them doesn't mean they weren't useful. Maybe development goes faster when companies pay people to help in open source projects but even without them these projects would go beyond any commercial competitor simply because they are made for users and if appropriate for developers using them. They simply have to because this is the only way for being successful and making your name known. To be better and not to do just more marketing like commercial projects can do to get their software to users.

Other point about marketshare of browsers. How do you know that either Opera or Konqueror have roughly zero marketshare if both browsers gladly support changing their user agent string? And most users of these browsers change them to something IE like cause of many browser sniffing sites that would not recognize anything but IE. So every statistics about browser usage is just worthless if they did not ask every user wich browser they use but just count on logfiles. Never trust any statistics you didn't fake yourself. (or how this maxim would sound in English)

Second you weigh costs of cross-platform development against the general benefit of Mozilla challenging IE. To be more exactly you weigh your costs of developing your product against the benefit of the whole other world. Would be interesting to see a "marketshare" or percentage of developers that have such extreme DOM usage that Mozilla's is not enough like you. I don't think that they are so many that they even deserve a voice to say this. I could say too, that for me the world would be better if only Mozilla existed and no IE. Cause then I would never have had so much problems with the latter. I could do most sites nearly without images, cause CSS2 is sufficient for the designs, but this crap of IE does not support them or displays them plain wrong. I would never have any problems with an IE that doesn't want to set a simple cookie without any warning. As a user I would not get error messages about Javascript problems in sites which are not mine so I'm not interested in them. Or enoying Javascript errors in Getright cause IE could not load the advertising banners (having Javascript turned off in IE). But some of our users decided (or even didn't decide anything, cause Microsoft decided for them) to use IE and so we support it. But I'm more happy with every user that decides that he wants to use Mozilla or even Opera or another browser...