mozilla.org releases Mozilla Milestone 0.9.4
Friday September 14th, 2001
#145 Re: 1.0 is in the eye of the beholder ; >
Thursday September 20th, 2001 12:08 AM
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>1) I too plan to keep using mozilla. Netscape adds some fluff to the overall process.
What about Beonex? You see too much fluff there? What about AsaZilla ;)
>2) I am also using n4 for email still. IMAP in 0.9.4 is still not usable on a daily basis.
I've been using IMAP mail in Mozilla exclusively for more than a year and a half and have never had any serious problems. You should give it a try again. It's getting darned good.
>3-4) I am fine with debug and QA menus. I don't see why mozilla wouldn't have a 1.0 build without debug, but I guess that is up to the people who would have to build it. Asa, is it just an extra work thing about the debug? being a genus doesn't mean you can't take out the debug code for a 1.0 release.
It's not just debug code (test cases really). It's testing links and options for testing different features.
> especially if it turns out that most intelligent people would prefer to just use mozilla instead of some branded version. kind of a support the community kind of thing.
They're free to use our testbuilds. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me when there are great alternatives like Beonex out there (how about supporting distributions in the community).
>OR, is taking the debug stuff out a useless endeavor? will it not affect anything? and if so why do peple want it out?
Taking this stuff out is taking out the options that make the build useful to the people it was created for. Mozilla provides binaries for testing. If you want something that's not made for testing you have a couple of nice choices, Netscape and Beonex are the two big ones now and I really really hope that others come along and do distributions.
>p.s. how come you seem annoyed by these suggestions?
mozilla.org has said from the very beginning that it was not an end-user distribution. Builds are made for one purpose, to make life easier for folks that want to help out with testing and development. Why is no one here interested in supporting the distributions that must be successfull for this project and community to be successful. Beonex is a great browser, free, with user support, no testing menus, and a number of privacy and security tweaks that should appeal to many people. Why would you want to use testbuilds when there are solid distributions available?