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mozilla.org releases Mozilla Milestone 0.9.4

Friday September 14th, 2001

mozilla.org today released Mozilla Milestone 0.9.4. New to this release is the ability to disable the JavaScript window.open() method during page load and unload events. You can find more information on what's new at the release notes.

Builds are available on mozilla.org's download page(or go right to the FTP directory).

A recent post to the Mozilla builds newsgroup explains that Netscape will continue to check into the 0.9.4 branch. Work continues on the trunk toward Mozilla 0.9.5.


#110 Re: Re: I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad...

by dveditz

Monday September 17th, 2001 2:17 AM

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>>> Because 0.9.4 was delayed a week... he accuses Mozilla.org of "poor program management" and making "inappropriate concessions to AOL/Netscape". <<<

>> He says bugs and those two reasons are his main suspects for reasons for the delay. I'd have to agree on all three fronts. Saying you don't have a release schedule, failing to evaluate incoming bug reports, forcing releases out on an accelerated schedule when their targeted bugs aren't fixed -- these are all issues relating to "bugs, poor program management, and inappropriate concessions to AOL". <<

There *is* a release schedule: every 5 weeks mozilla.org stabilizes the tree as best they can and calls it a milestone. mozilla.org can't control how much work developers do for each release, nor can mozilla.org keep developers from overcommiting to a release in the bug system. And other than the in-progress Mozilla 1.0 definition, mozilla.org doesn't define what goes into each milestone. They stick a stake in the ground so people can see where we are, and they hold the release for a week give or take while the most egregious of the rough spots are sanded down. That's all a milestone release is.

>> He complains that there isn't a non-Talkback installer. <<

> That is a legitimate privacy concern. < Talkback is an *option* in all the installers. It is on by default because the reason mozilla.org provides binaries is to get feedback, but it can turned off just like any other part of the install users decide they don't need or want.

If a user happens to install it accidentally they would find that it announces itself the first time it is activated, giving the user an option to turn it off, and thereafter it asks before sending anything each and every time it is activated. It can also be turned off completely at any time.

There are no legitimate privacy concerns with the Mozilla use of Talkback. Some people may wish not to use it, but it's all completely above board, optional, and opt-in when sending data.