SeaMonkey 1.0.6 and SeaMonkey 1.1 Beta ReleasedWednesday November 8th, 2006Seamonkey 1.0.6, a security and stability update for the all-in-one Internet Suite has been released. The Seamonkey 1.0.6 Release Notes have more information. SeaMonkey 1.1 Beta, a version aimed at developers and testers has also been released. New features include tab previews, spell check, an e-mail tagging system, an improved Linux startup script, better new mail notifications and an updated Chatzilla IRC client. The SeaMonkey 1.1 Beta Release Notes have more information. I'm a firefox user on my work PCs and my personal laptop, but Seamonkey on my home desktop, and was seriously considering moving from Seamonkey to the separate, fragmented Firefox/Thunderbird/etc apps very soon as I was really starting to miss some of Firefox 2's newer features when using Seamonkey. But from reading the release notes it looks like the SM 1.1beta has the spellcheck (that I never knew I needed before FF2, but now can't look at a message board, blog post or wiki article without it) and also corrects the issues with context menus in the PTB and BM overflows that was just starting to niggle at me recently (the right-hand end of my PTB tends to be a place for dumping URLs to look at later, so the bar could easily be about 3 times as long as my screen, and not being able to right-click on the links was getting annoying). My only worry, and the only reason I don't tend to use the betas of Seamonkey is my mail. That is data that I just don't want to lose or risk. Does anyone have any opinions on the stability/safety of Seamonkey 1.1b's mail client compared to v1.0x which I'm currently using at home? I use the beta Builds of SeaMonkey 1.1 quite often and it's very stable. The "core" code is the same Firefox 2 and Thunderbird 2 (upcoming) use and that code is quite stable I would say :). ... then why don't they call it SeaMonkey 2.0 for consistency? ...for the same reason that Firefox 2 isn't called Firefox 1.8.1, even though it's based on the version of Gecko that would have been called Mozilla Suite 1.8.1 if it the suite hadn't been retired? Its a version number, they're half targets used by developers and half fancy names used by marketeers, very few of them make sense, and they're rarely carried between products, even if they're related. As some people may know, I run Windows 95 OSR 2.1 (Why? Because I can! Oh, and no IE at all!). I have been kicking around the SeaMonkey 1.1 beta for the last few hours here (I used the ZIP download) and it runs excellently right out of the box! And so far I am liking this new spell checker and so far I have not experienced even one crash for freeze up. Excellent work! So this didn't affect SeaMonkey? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353537 Apparently not. Does this version of SeaMonkey use Sqlite anywhere? It's built along with everything else, but SeaMonkey itself doesn't use it. Two reasons why it's built with SeaMonkey even though it doesn't use it: 1) To be as close to the official Gecko as possible 2) So that extensions can use this new "storage" thing Odd thing though is that I have been playing around with the SQLite sample programs from http://www.sqlite.org/download.html and they work fine under Windows 95 and NT 3.51. This might be an issue specific to Mozilla then. So, is the ultimate aim to change the storage format of emails? It sure would be cool to break the ding dang darn 2GB limit, and maybe address the issues with compacting folders (in that it is slow, disruptive, frags the drive to all heck, and requires a LOT of free space)!!!! The on-disk storage of mail messages won't be changed to storage, not by Thunderbird and not by SeaMonkey. What may happen is replacing the msf files by something else, based on storage (not for SeaMonkey 1.1 though). BTW, the 2GB limit for mail folders should already be fixed in current SeaMonkey nightly builds, and also for SeaMonkey 1.1 final (beta still has the problem). For the 1.1 beta I recommend a "clean" install. For debugging, it's easier to differentiate between user caused glitches and inherent bugs this way for reports. whats about a separated Composer? This is the real reason I continue to use Mozilla Suite/Seamokey http://nvu.com I haven't used it since 0.9, but it's supposed to be all that Composer offers and more. i am still using SeaMonkey because the BOOKMARK MANAGER is so far ahead of the primitive bookmark managing in FF... one of these days they will upgrade FF to allow things like adding the keyword when you file a bookmark, etc. etc. until then, i use SeaMonkey for managing my master copy of the bookmarks file, and FF for day-to-day fast browsing. I have heard that with the conversion of SeaMonkey to the same toolbox used by Fire/Thunderbird that user profiles created by 1.0.6 and earlier will no longer be compatible. Is it true that SeaMonkey 1.0.6 profiles are incompatible with SeaMonkey 1.1? When a user mover over to SeaMonkey 1.1 will the user have to create a new profile? How will this be handled? #16 Re: Is SeaMonkey 1.1 compatible with SeaMonkey 1.0by ParadigmK Sunday November 12th, 2006 8:58 PM The move to Toolkit won't take place until the version after 1.1 (currently known as 1.5), so 1.0.6 profiles will work seamlessly with 1.1. When 1.5 is released, the profiles from earlier versions may not be 100% compatible, but there will be a converter that will move them over to the new format. #18 Re: Re: Yes ... but you still need another mailerby montagnacs Saturday November 18th, 2006 4:30 AM This is now Release 1.1 out and the mailer agent takes always 5 seconds to display every mail of your mailbase when you click-it .... it's the same problem from the beginning of Seamonkey under Linux all distributions. We are a lot of people looking at our bugzilla report from 1 year. The bug is still left as unconfirmed !! it's really crazy, I never saw that from the beginning of Linux. It seems that windows is accapparating all the force of develloppers ... So we can't leave Mozilla 1.7.13 due this evident flaw. I'm pretty sure that when we clik a mail the gear is doin 1zillion of llops before displaying and nobody cares ! gooooood ! May be a LINUX devellopper will see my mails once .....or ... Maybe it's still unconfirmed because no developer could reproduce it? I used Mozilla on Linux since the days of M12 and am now using Seamonkey 1.1b and I never had the problem you described. Mails appear just as I click on them. Make sure your report contains enough information so that the developers can see the problem for themselves. If they cannot see it, they cannot fix it. montagnacs, are you referring to bug 337726 which was created under the wrong component - one that gets almost no attention? at least two people did try to assist. there is no response to the suggestion of trying a gtk1 build. #23 Re: Re: Yes ... but you still need another mailerby montagnacs Thursday November 23rd, 2006 6:21 AM No Sir, I'm talking about using a binary standard release of Seamonkey 1.0 with a Mandrake-9.1 distribution, with libgtk-1.2.so.0.9.1 and libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.200.1 ... and I was not alone to report this bug 335459 and 326160, 327552 .... #19 Re: Re: Yes ... but you still need another mailerby montagnacs Saturday November 18th, 2006 5:22 AM This is now Release 1.1 out and the mailer agent takes always 5 seconds to display every mail of your mailbase when you click-it .... it's the same problem from the beginning of Seamonkey under Linux all distributions. We are a lot of people looking at our bugzilla report from 1 year. The bug is still left as unconfirmed !! it's really crazy, I never saw that from the beginning of Linux. It seems that windows is accapparating all the force of develloppers ... So we can't leave Mozilla 1.7.13 due this evident flaw. I'm pretty sure that when we clik a mail the gear is doin 1zillion of llops before displaying and nobody cares ! gooooood ! May be a LINUX devellopper will see my mails once .....or ... |