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Mozilla Firefox 2 Released

Tuesday October 24th, 2006

The Mozilla Corporation has officially released Mozilla Firefox 2 for Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. Coming just days after the launch of Microsoft Internet Explorer 7, Firefox 2 offers a refreshed user interface, anti-phishing protection, improvements to the built-in search feature, tabbed browsing changes, the ability to restore an interrupted session, better support for Web feeds, inline spell-checking, support for microsummaries and a number of other enhancements.

Upon starting Firefox 2 for the first time, most users will notice the updated default theme. This refines the design and usability of the theme used since Firefox 1.0 without making any jarring or radical alterations. Design proposals were solicited from three agencies: MetaDesign, Radiant Core and Raizlabs. Radiant Core's proposal was picked and developed for the finished product.

In addition to refining the look of the buttons and other visual elements, the new design tethers the Go button to the Location Bar and adds an equivalent action button to the Search Bar. Several clickable buttons (for example, the feed icon in the Location Bar and the search engine icon in the Search Bar) have been refined to make it more obvious that they are interactive.

Firefox 2's Phishing Protection feature was developed from the Google Safe Browsing feature of the Google Toolbar for Firefox using code donated by the search giant. By default, the Phishing Protection feature checks every page you visit against a local blacklist of known phishing sites and displays a warning if the site is fraudulent. This list is periodically updated by Firefox while the feature is enabled.

For more real-time protection, users can choose (from the Security panel of the Options/Preferences window) to send details of every site they visit to a remote service for checking (currently Google is the only service provider, though other phishing data providers can be supported). With this feature enabled, the URL of every page visited is sent to Google for checking over a secure connection. In addition, details of how users respond to phishing warnings are also sent. While real-time checking can offer greater protection, there are obvious privacy implications, which is why only the local list is enabled by default.

The rapid increase in the number of phishing attacks has led most major browser vendors to implement anti-phishing technologies. Internet Explorer 7 has a Phishing Filter and the forthcoming Opera 9.1 will include a similar Suspected Site Fraud feature. According to reports, Apple Safari 3 will have anti-phishing warnings, which will be powered by Google technology like the Firefox 2 Phishing Protection.

Firefox 2 enhances the search features built into the browser. The most striking addition is support for search suggestions: as text is entered into the Search Bar, the selected search engine can optionally send back a list of suggestions to be displayed in a menu, similar to the Web-based Google Suggest technology demo but built into the browser. Several search engines distributed with Firefox 2, including Google and Yahoo!, support this feature out of the box.

In addition to Apple's ageing Sherlock search engine plugin format, Firefox 2 also supports search engines defined in the OpenSearch plugin format developed by Amazon's A9.com search engine. OpenSearch is also backed by Microsoft, so OpenSearch plugins created for Firefox 2 will also work in Internet Explorer 7.

OpenSearch defines a mechanism to allow browsers to auto-discover search engine plugins. When visiting a site that advertises an OpenSearch plugin, the Search Bar icon will 'light up' and users can install the search plugin from the search engine selection menu. Firefox 2 also adds a feature for managing installed search engines, allowing engines to be easily reordered or removed.

Tabbed browsing has also been improved in Firefox 2. In response to usability testing of Firefox's tabbed browsing, the close button has been moved from the end of the tab bar to the actual tab. By default, all tabs have a close button but if many tabs are opened the close button is just shown on the current tab to save space. Any user who has closed a tab accidentally will appreciate the new Undo Close Tab option on the tab bar context menu and the Recently Closed Tabs submenu of the new History menu (which replaces the Go menu).

Changes have also been made to the way large numbers of tabs are handled. Each individual tab still gets smaller and smaller as more tabs are introduced but there is now a minimum size after which arrows appear at each end of the tab bar, allowing users to scroll through their tabs. A menu at the far end of the tab bar allows users to quickly switch to any open tab.

The new Session Restore feature aims to reduce the frustration caused by losing work due to a crash. When Firefox is restarted after being unexpectedly closed, a dialogue offers the user the option to restore their previous session: windows, tabs, text entered into forms and in-progress downloads are all brought back. The Session Restore feature is also activated for restarts required by application or extension updates.

Firefox 1.0 and 1.5 automatically detected Web feeds and allowed users to easily create Live Bookmarks from them. In Firefox 2, when a user clicks on the feed icon in the Location Bar (or visits a Web feed manually), Firefox shows a friendly view of the RSS or Atom data, reminiscent of the feed view offered by Safari and more recently Internet Explorer 7. From this view, users can subscribe to the feed using Live Bookmarks, an installed application that supports Web feeds (such as Mozilla Thunderbird) or a Web-based service (Bloglines, My Yahoo! and Google Reader are supported by default but other Web-based feed readers can easily be added to Firefox).

Firefox 2 adds a built-in spell checker to allow text entered into Web forms to be easily checked. This works much like the similar feature in Thunderbird (itself heavily influenced by Microsoft Word): potentially misspelt words are underlined in red and can be corrected by selecting an appropriate suggestion from the context menu. By default, only spell checking for multi-line text areas is enabled but checking can also be activated on single-line text fields. Using non-standard HTML attributes, websites have some limited control over which fields are checked by default. A variety of spell checking dictionaries for a number of languages are available, with the first run page shown after upgrading to Firefox 2 offering an appropriate dictionary for the localisation of Firefox installed.

Live Titles (also known as Microsummaries) allow bookmark titles to be more dynamic and useful. For example, rather than just displaying a static title, a bookmark for a news site could display the latest headline. This data is then periodically updated, providing a useful and non-intrusive summary of the current state of a bookmarked page. A number of sites support microsummaries and microsummary generators can be installed for sites that do not.

The Mozilla Developer Center has details about Firefox 2 for developers, including information about JavaScript 1.7 support, SVG in Firefox 2 and changes needed to make extensions compatible with Firefox 2.

Firefox 2 can be downloaded from the redesigned Firefox product page (now available in 27 languages). Localised versions of Firefox 2 are available for over thirty different locales. Existing users of Firefox will be offered the new version via the software update system over the next few days.

The Firefox 2 features page has details about some of the major features in the browser and the Firefox 2 Release Notes have more specific information.

The Mozilla Corporation has issued a press release extolling the virtues of Firefox 2 and CEO Mitchell Baker has written a statement on the importance of Firefox 2.

This weekend, several hundred parties will be held to celebrate the release of Firefox 2 across the globe. A gift has already arrived from an unexpected source: the Microsoft Internet Explorer 7 team sent a cake in a move that shows relations may have improved somewhat since the days of Microsoft dumping a giant IE logo on Netscape's front lawn to mark the release of IE4 in 1997.

Looking further ahead, Firefox 3 is currently scheduled for release in the second quarter of 2007. Developed under the code name Gran Paradiso, Firefox 3 will be based on Gecko 1.9 (Firefox 2 is based on Gecko 1.8.1) and will include a number of under-the-hood improvements.

Update: The text above stated that existing Firefox users would be offered Firefox 2 via the software update system within a few days of the release. This is incorrect. Users will be offered the new version some time over the next few weeks. Those wishing to upgrade are therefore advised to download and install Firefox 2 manually.

The text above also stated that the local phishing blacklist is "periodically updated by Firefox". Since this article was published, some confusion has arisen over how often these updates occur. In general, Firefox will update the local blacklist around once every thirty minutes while the user is connected to the Internet and the feature is enabled, though the period between updates can be as long as forty-five minutes in some cases. Mozilla developer Myk Melez posted more detailed information on the blacklist update schedule as a comment to a weblog post by Asa Dotzler about the anti-phishing feature (Myk's comment begins "Regarding privacy concerns..." and has a timestamp of October 27, 2006 3:18 PM).


#1 Congratulations on a fine release.

by PeteTehDuck

Tuesday October 24th, 2006 6:48 PM

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Well done to every single contributor, triager, QA tester - everyone, who worked on this release. It's been a long wait, but it's really smashing. Thank-you so much.

#2 Well done!

by NikonMike

Tuesday October 24th, 2006 7:21 PM

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Thanks for this great release! Since summer I've been using Bon Echo nightlies on both Mac and Windows as my main browser and there were very few hiccups on the way. Since late Betas FX2 was very solid indeed. Now, who dares to walk into a Minefield? ;)

#3 NSIS installer

by rwc

Tuesday October 24th, 2006 7:25 PM

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Anyone know how to create the new NSIS installer for Firefox 2 - looking for instructions like

<http://www.mozilla.org/pr…10n/localize-release.html>

only up-to-date? I basically just want to create a silent installer.

#57 How to silent install Firefox 2

by bhashem

Thursday November 2nd, 2006 12:26 PM

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You can use "Firefox Setup 2.0.exe" -ms on the command line and that seems to work.

#4 "Existing users of Firefox ...

by scuac

Tuesday October 24th, 2006 8:26 PM

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... will be offered the new version via the software update system over the next few days."

I can't wait! Is a full install recommended over the upgrade?

#5 Closed tabs

by Harrison

Tuesday October 24th, 2006 8:30 PM

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One thing: the "recently closed tabs list" is kind of hard to find. I did not know about it until I read this article. Perhaps behavior emuating Opera or Tab Mix Plus' recently closed list (the trash icon) would make it more accessible?

#13 Re: Closed tabs

by leafdigital

Wednesday October 25th, 2006 3:50 AM

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Agreed - and I knew about the list in History, but didn't know about the 'Undo' feature!

For version 3, I think:

1) The 'Undo' option should alo be available on the [v] dropdown at the right of the tablist (as the bottom option under a separator, something like 'Reopen: whatever').

2) When you close a tab, maybe an outline should animate real quick toward that dropdown. (Maybe only the first few times you do it.)

My main problem with the new system, apart from the one I mentioned in a previous thread which there's a bug for (when you open a new tab with middle-click it doesn't scroll the tab-bar to show it) is that the minimum size is too large; usability decreases significantly when the tabs don't fit, so it would be better to keep them fitting where posible. Maybe there's an about:config preference for this?

Actually it would be useful if the release notes included a list of new or relevant about:config prefs...

--sam

#14 Re minimum tab width too large

by leafdigital

Wednesday October 25th, 2006 3:51 AM

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Duh, it was pretty easy to find - browser.tabs.tabMinWidth. At least, I presume it's that. Think it only takes effect on restart.

--sam

#6 this is the same as RC3 right?

by deaniac83

Tuesday October 24th, 2006 10:33 PM

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As far as I know, that's the purpose of RC's - to test what would become the final release. If further fixes are needed, a new RC is released. I am assuming that RC3 and this release is one and the same, given that there was no further RC after RC3. Am I correct?

#15 Re: this is the same as RC3 right?

by mlefevre

Wednesday October 25th, 2006 4:00 AM

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Yes, you're right. The only change from RC3 to the final release was the filename for the installer. So anyone that has RC3 doesn't need to bother doing anything - you have the final version already.

#7 this is the same as RC3 right?

by deaniac83

Tuesday October 24th, 2006 10:36 PM

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As far as I know, that's the purpose of RC's - to test what would become the final release. If further fixes are needed, a new RC is released. I am assuming that RC3 and this release is one and the same, given that there was no further RC after RC3. Am I correct?

#8 What about the little cursor?

by pandronic

Tuesday October 24th, 2006 10:41 PM

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Great release, but I found a little annoyance ... it seems that there is a cursor in the page which I can move with the arrow keys to navigate the web page. The problem (besides the aesthetic one) is that if I navigate a long page by mouse and then decide to navigate it with the keyboard, the page jumps to the cursor instead of continuing from the position you are viewing at that moment. This is very much like word processors behave. So ... does anyone know how to get rid of this?

Thank you

#9 Re: What about the little cursor?

by johann_p

Wednesday October 25th, 2006 12:44 AM

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Check Preferences -> Advanced -> General and uncheck Accessibility -> Always use the cursor keys to navigate within pages.

#11 Re: Re: What about the little cursor?

by pandronic

Wednesday October 25th, 2006 1:50 AM

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Thanks. Damn that was annoying!

#32 Re: Title fields

by tsahi

Thursday October 26th, 2006 12:27 PM

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you can tuggle that with the F7 key.

#10 Congratulations but the new layout of AMO is weird

by klint

Wednesday October 25th, 2006 12:50 AM

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Why losing half of the screen with an useless banner ? Why hide the version of the extension ? It is one of the very first thing I look at.

But the most important is : congrats, YOU MADE IT ! FF2.0 is tremendous.

#12 Thank you

by suexID

Wednesday October 25th, 2006 2:43 AM

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Thank you, you made a fantastic browser, well done!

#16 dot com

by Hymagumba2

Wednesday October 25th, 2006 4:03 AM

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This whole new multiple languages thing seems to be playing havok with .com at the moment.

The test page for the phishing filter returns a 404 (on the German site) and even if you navigate to the English one by hand, due to the different URL it doesn't activate the filter.

Not a good sign.

I've seen loads of other similar breakages around the site.

#17 Congratz on FF2 but who is BlogLines.com?

by Rubber_Duck

Wednesday October 25th, 2006 4:11 AM

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I just installed and fired up FF2 and noticed something strange thanks to my firewall; fusion.google.com and <http://www.bloglines.com> were listed under recent connections. I noticed that these were a couple of the items listed under "Feeds". I'm gonna guess that FF2 did the communication with these websites but why? I just installed it so there couldn't have been any feeds to check. I'm just kinda interested in why my bandwidth, what little of it there is, was used to communicate with these sites.

#18 Re: Congratz on FF2 but who is BlogLines.com?

by AlexBishop <alex@mozillazine.org>

Wednesday October 25th, 2006 6:04 AM

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You got me interested enough to try tracing the traffic with a packet sniffer and it seems that Firefox is downloading the site icons (/favicon.ico) for the three built-in Web-based feed readers: Bloglines, My Yahoo! and Google Reader. It only seems to do this when you open the Feeds panel of Options/Preferences or view a feed preview. The icons are cached (presumably in the same way any other resource is cached) so you may have to do the Clear Private Data dance to observe this.

Slightly troubling, it seems that when you preview a feed, each site icon request includes the URL of the feed in the Referer header. This request also includes any cookies belonging to the feed reader site. It's therefore seems possible that a Web-based feed reader could get details of every feed a user views (with unique user identified achieved via a cookie) without said user explicitly interacting with the Web-based feed reader.

Alex

#19 I'll have to use IE7 instead of FF2 for a while :(

by rodrms

Wednesday October 25th, 2006 9:23 AM

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I've been a proud user of Firefox since it was still called Phoenix. All its features made it, since then, the best browser for what I wanted and needed.

Nowadays, that magical feeling is still here. But, honestly, Internet Explorer 7 seems to be offering some tough competition, since they've copied all of the nice features Firefox has had for ages, like tabbed browsing, add-ons, better privacy and security features, etc.

I wouldn't even consider using IE7 instead of Firefox, but there is something concerning me seriously. As AMAZING as it seems, IE7 seems to have much better cookie security/privacy handling than Firefox 2 does!! Just take a look at the high deep level of the cookie settings IE7 gives the user, and compare it to those of FF2 - its ridiculous! Why is FF2 now neglecting such essential part of browser security??

I never thought I'd say that, and it really hurts me on the inside to do it, but I'll have to use IE7 until FF2 implements better cookie privacy settings, as those of Microsoft's browser. I'll miss the FF2 features IE7 doesn't have yet, like find as you type, session restore* and being able to hightlight the search term, but security is always and has always been my deepest concern.

Here is my little brat, hoping for FF improvements which will put me back in the good old FF days.

* about session restore: is it just me or FF2 crashes a lot more often than prior versions, up to 1.5? I never missed this session restore feature prior to FF2, maybe because crashes were soooooo rare I never even thought about them. But now on FF2 session restore seems to be very useful, because the browser crashes a lot more often. Isn't this bad? I mean, having a session saver is awesome, but I'd rather not need it as often as I need it now...

#20 Re: I'll have to use IE7 instead of FF2 for a whil

by pandronic

Wednesday October 25th, 2006 11:38 AM

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I don't understand ... what does IE7 do in term of handling cookies that Firefox doesn't do, and why is that such a big issue?

#22 Re: Re: I'll have to use IE7 instead of FF2 for a

by rodrms

Wednesday October 25th, 2006 1:01 PM

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Here's a screenshot showing IE7's cookie policies settings: <http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/847/ie7bg1.jpg>

As you can see, on IE7 you can set different levels of cookie security, changing policies based on 3 different matters: - whether it's a first or thid party cookie; - implicit/explicit user consent for the cookie; - presence or not of compact privacy policy for the cookie.

FF2 gives the user none of those possibilities, as it only allows accepting or blocking all cookies, defining how long do cookies last (session/expiring/ask), and restricting a few sites, all functionalities also available on IE7.

So FF2 seems to be currently way behind on cookie privacy settings, that's pretty serious to me.

#24 Re: Re: Re: I'll have to use IE7 instead of FF2 fo

by BenoitRen

Wednesday October 25th, 2006 4:15 PM

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SeaMonkey has all of that. It's the Mozilla Suite under a new name, also based on Gecko. Much better than your alternative. :)

And before anyone yells: "But I just want a browser!", you can specify to only install the browser component at setup.

#25 Re: Re: Re: I'll have to use IE7 instead of FF2 fo

by pandronic

Wednesday October 25th, 2006 11:56 PM

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I see the same dialog in IE6. You could have switched a looooong time ago.

#26 Re: Re: Re: Re: I'll have to use IE7 instead of FF

by rodrms

Thursday October 26th, 2006 10:17 AM

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True, but IE6 didn't have all the nice FF features IE7 has now, like tabbed browsing and etc., so actually IE has just now became an attractive alternative.

#27 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I'll have to use IE7 instead o

by pandronic

Thursday October 26th, 2006 11:04 AM

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If you are interested about security I don't think that IE is the choice for you, considering the track record. I don't, we'll have to wait see ...

#29 Re: Re: Re: I'll have to use IE7 instead of FF2 fo

by scuac

Thursday October 26th, 2006 11:37 AM

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Dear rodrms,

let me tell you that Firefox actually DOES have similar options that one can set. Unfortunately, there is no nice GUI to do so, but one can go into about:config and set all these, by modifying network. cookie. cookieBehavior and network. cookie. p3p. See <http://kb.mozillazine.org…onfig_entries#Network..2A> for more information.

#30 Re: Re: Re: Re: I'll have to use IE7 instead of FF

by scuac

Thursday October 26th, 2006 11:39 AM

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And ... I shot myself in the foot. After posting I saw:

"Note: P3P functionality is not present in Firefox and will probably be removed from Mozilla Suite (see bug 225287)."

#55 Re: Re: Re: Re: I'll have to use IE7 instead of FF

by ajpaterson

Thursday November 2nd, 2006 7:19 AM

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The reasons for removing the third-party cookie setting (allow cookies from originating site only) are documented in bug 349680 here: <https://bugzilla.mozilla.…rg/show_bug.cgi?id=349680> . Note that it is marked as WONTFIX. Some interesting/worrying quotes from the comments in that bug:

"As I understand things from mconnor, this option never worked in the first place, which is why we removed it."

"mconnor points out that bug 200716 indicates that the way we currently guard from third-party cookies doesn't really work."

"As dveditz noted in Bug 324397, this option doesn't really work due to iframes/redirects, and the methods they're using can't effectively be stopped without breaking the web in general. We've been through this before, and there really isn't a good way to make this effective."

So, as I understand it, this important (to me, anyway) security feature which goes all the way back to the Netscape days, does not work and has never really worked! Therefore, setting "network. cookie. cookieBehavior" to 1 actually provides little if any real security. Of course, we have no evidence to suggest that the equivalent setting in IE works either but I am sure that Microsoft and their supporters will not hesitate to take advantage of this situation.

#38 Re: I'll have to use IE7 instead of FF2 for a whil

by rodrms

Saturday October 28th, 2006 8:24 AM

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You know, I don't see with good eyes the recent intensification of connections between Google and Mozilla, and the FF loss of several important privacy features.

Too much of "coincidences" to me. But, of course, that's just my oppinion, and I'm nobody.

#21 Under Linux makes crash

by balazs_b

Wednesday October 25th, 2006 11:48 AM

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I'm using Ubuntu/Edgy at home, and FF2 makes a segment fault when the page contains a Java applet (with every version of Java), therefore I'll use 1.5.0.7 till revise of this error.

#23 New installer is good, too

by ibutora

Wednesday October 25th, 2006 2:08 PM

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Nice release, works very well thus far on my Windows 98 machine. (I am still hoping that someone will step up and work on a compatibility library that will enable Gecko 1.9 to work on Win 9x.) Nice to have two new browsers (Firefox and Opera) that both work on older operating systems, especially at a time when we are about to experience heavy marketing from Microsoft for Vista.

My personal opinion is that spellchecking as a part of the browser was not necessary (there has been a pretty good extension - spellBound- available, with some additional functionality), but I have nothing against it being there. I hope that more languages are added, such as Slovak.

Congrats to the Firefox team for shipping!

#28 Check for updates

by scuac

Thursday October 26th, 2006 11:30 AM

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...still nothing. When is Fx 2.0 going to be available through the update system?

#49 Re: Check for updates

by tseelee

Tuesday October 31st, 2006 3:12 PM

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I remember reading about profile changes, so I made a completely new profile during installation. Works great so far.

#31 IE7? Get real!

by neilparks1

Thursday October 26th, 2006 12:19 PM

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I just looked at the web site that describes the "new" IE7. I can't believe what a clone it is!

Look at me--I have tabs, and a search bar, and RSS feeds, and shrink-to-fit printing, and security, and ...

Mozilla ought to sue Micro$loth for plagiarism.

#34 Re: IE7? Get real!

by ddr513

Friday October 27th, 2006 8:27 PM

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>>Mozilla ought to sue Micro$loth for plagiarism.<< Pssst... to be fair, Opera could sue both. ;) That aside, I'm really impressed with Firefox 2. I know the interface changes were a little controversial, but I think they're terrific, for the most part.

And to the poster below re: auto update, it didn't work for me, either.

#33 Check for updates ... day 3

by scuac

Friday October 27th, 2006 8:33 AM

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Am I the only one for whom the update is not working? And I am not talking about the automatic update but manually going to Help -> Check for Updates... nothing is found.

#44 Re: Check for updates ... day 3

by schapel

Monday October 30th, 2006 6:58 AM

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Like the article says, Firefox 2 is not available as an update yet. "Users will be offered the new version some time over the next few weeks. Those wishing to upgrade are therefore advised to download and install Firefox 2 manually."

#45 Re: Re: Check for updates ... day 3

by scuac

Monday October 30th, 2006 8:40 AM

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Like the article says now, after being updated. It originally stated that it would take a few days, that's when I posted my message.

#35 New Features???

by agustinff

Friday October 27th, 2006 10:37 PM

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I installed Firefox 2 yesterday and honestly, I don't see any major upgrades, compared to my previous version (1.5.0.7) with the TabMixPlus extension... Is there any other interesting feature waiting to impress me?? In fact, I also tried IE7 last week and I loved the quick tab preview feature (not included yet in any FF extension). I'm not criticising, just wondering wich are the so announced innovations!! Am I so wrong?

#48 Re: New Features???

by tseelee

Tuesday October 31st, 2006 3:11 PM

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Well, I'm a happy camper about this release. I haven't seen any new bugs so far, and several problems have been fixed (the password manager used to do poorly on pages like TD Ameritrade's login page. Thank you for all the great work!

#54 Re: Re: New Features???

by ddr513

Wednesday November 1st, 2006 6:37 PM

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I like this new version very much as well. Given the nature of Firefox (and Thunderbird), I don't think it would be reasonable to expect a bunch of new bells and whistles with every new version, but rather a lot of fine-tuning under the hood. That seems to have been done with Fx 2. I have found it to be the most stable and smooth-running release I've tried so far.

#36 New Features???

by agustinff

Friday October 27th, 2006 10:42 PM

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I installed Firefox 2 yesterday and honestly, I don't see any major upgrades, compared to my previous version (1.5.0.7) with the TabMixPlus extension... Is there any other interesting feature waiting to impress me?? In fact, I also tried IE7 last week and I loved the quick tab preview feature (not included yet in any FF extension). I'm not criticising, just wondering wich are the so announced innovations!! Am I so wrong?

#37 New Features???

by agustinff

Friday October 27th, 2006 10:45 PM

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I installed Firefox 2 yesterday and honestly, I don't see any major upgrades, compared to my previous version (1.5.0.7) with the TabMixPlus extension... Is there any other interesting feature waiting to impress me?? In fact, I also tried IE7 last week and I loved the quick tab preview feature (not included yet in any FF extension). I'm not criticising, just wondering wich are the so announced innovations!! Am I so wrong?

#41 Re: New Features???

by pirat

Sunday October 29th, 2006 3:19 AM

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Well, when you use TabMixPlus for tabs, you could use Showcase for previews from times of Fx-1.5 also. I don't have Fx-2 installed (and probably will not have until I have time to figure out how to use MAF under it) but from all impressins I think there's not much for advanced user who was always been using extensions (in fact it's worse because HIDE tabs was the biggest wrong idea unfortunatelly all browser makers think is the good one). From the developer perspective it's different story, actually I may be using it just for playing with JS-1.7 and SQLite :)

#42 Re: New Features???

by agustinff

Sunday October 29th, 2006 12:41 PM

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Thank you pirat!! I'd never heard of that extension before... it's just what I was looking for :D Again, thank you very much... I won't install ff2 until they release a less buggy version!

#39 Screen size BUG

by Galik

Saturday October 28th, 2006 3:42 PM

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Okay I have a bug. It has been around for many many versions (before Fx 2) and is still here. I only just nailed down what its doing.

Screens are being rendered based on the width of my screen rather than the width of the text window. So if I maximise Firefox the screen is spaced out perfectly. If Firefox is less than full screen size then I lose pieces off the sides.

Anyone else get this?

Fedora Core 5/6

#40 2.0 CDS?

by SomeGuy

Saturday October 28th, 2006 9:23 PM

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Say, when will 2.0 CDs be available in the Mozilla store? And what about thunderbird 2.0? Coming soon I assume?

#43 Alas, no Thunderbird 2.0

by johann_p

Monday October 30th, 2006 4:41 AM

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Unfortunately this was not accompanied by a release of Thunderbird 2.0. Thunderbird would provide much more oportunity for true innovation, but it seems it is a bit the unwanted step-child of the Mozilla people.

#46 Usually follows after

by leafdigital

Tuesday October 31st, 2006 3:40 AM

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Thunderbird releases are usually a little while after Firefox ones. The fact Tb is currently on version 1.5 only really proves that it's a week behind Firefox at the moment... s there a schedule for the next Tb release?

Mind, I'm not sure what features I'm looking for and whether or not they might be included. I guess better performance would be nice, and the ability to have the junk classifier run after a mail connection terminates due to timeout or server issues but having already downloaded 800 messages which you then have to classify manually... (not that I had to do that the other day or anything). Otherwise though I'm pretty happy with Tb, it basically works.

I guess from a 'future' perspective it would be good to see some support for DKIM (so that if turned on it would display the identifying domain for signed messages, either based on headers from server if you use a DKIM-supporting mailserver [which I think is generally the better option] or by verifying DKIM signatures itself otherwise). That would probably be more appropriate as an extension though.

--sam

#47 Re: Usually follows after

by mlefevre

Tuesday October 31st, 2006 8:15 AM

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The last schedule update (back in August) had a beta having happened already, with a release by the end of the year. Obviously going to be a bit later now. The meeting they had yesterday - <http://wiki.mozilla.org/W…Updates/2006-10-30#TB_2.0> - indicates they're going to work out a new schedule for Thunderbird 2.0

As for what will be in Thunderbird 2.0, given that they already did the alpha and will be working towards the (first) beta shortly, I don't imagine the feature set will change much from <http://weblogs.mozillazin…ves/2006/09/2-0beta1.html>

#58 first quarter 2007

by johann_p

Tuesday November 7th, 2006 6:02 AM

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according to this: <http://www.mozilla.org/pr…/thunderbird/roadmap.html>

Even worse than I originally thought.

#50 Acid2

by Lusfox

Tuesday October 31st, 2006 3:17 PM

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It will be that the Firefox is compatible with the norms of the WC3?

Site test: <http://www.webstandards.org/action/acid2/>

#51 Re: Acid2

by schapel

Tuesday October 31st, 2006 7:36 PM

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Firefox 3 should pass Acid2.

#52 who destroyed the find bar in FAYT for no reason?

by stylo

Wednesday November 1st, 2006 8:46 AM

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who destroyed the find bar in FAYT for no reason? now you have 2 different bars depending which way you find. really dumb and annoying if you use fayt.

fix please.

#56 Re: who destroyed the find bar in FAYT for no reas

by hhh

Thursday November 2nd, 2006 9:17 AM

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Add this to a userChrome.css file... /* Old School Find Bar */ #FindToolbar > * { display:-moz-box !important; }

<http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/edit>

#53 Sugestion

by Lusfox

Wednesday November 1st, 2006 5:40 PM

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@schapel Tks :)

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The sugestion that I want to propose is, if it's posible to load in future versions extensions in real time without close and open firefox and, I like that firefox wouldn't permit that extensions crash.

#59 Big whoop...

by cozymonk <isaac.cady@gmail.com>

Saturday November 11th, 2006 8:26 PM

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What is wrong with Mozilla... I mean, this is nothing special. Firefox has now become what Opera was three years ago. and what Safari was two ago. Firefox has never been inovative, like all the claims make, it's just gotten more hype than other, better browsers. Firefox is the Microsoft of the browser world. Mozilla takes other peoples ideas and innovations and presents them as their own and manages to "sell" the product better. I hope to god someone doesn't hail firefox because is has an integrated RSS reader or opens "_blank" commands as a new tab instead of a new window without an add-ons. This is ridiculous... I feel sorry for all the people who waited for this release... The only reason i have for using it is that no non-gecko-based or non-IE browser will run GMail fully. what ever...

#60 spellcheck

by arielb

Sunday November 12th, 2006 12:01 AM

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is the biggest deal for me- a feature I've wanted for quite some time and I don't think there was an extension for it, right?

#61 it's funny

by arielb

Monday November 13th, 2006 11:00 AM

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Firefox has this great thing of extensions. so now you can have 5 zillion features to Firefox. then people complain when Firefox takes some of those features. I mean based on features, this should be called Firefox 20.0

hey! I want firefox to have more features. I don't care if they are from IE, Opera or for some obscure browser for the QNX operating system. I don't want to play with 5 zillion extensions with their interfaces and quirks. I want a nice web experience-not a hack.

nevertheless it is hard to see the big new concept in this version. It does basically the same job but does it well. fortunately for firefox, IE7 shot itself in the foot when it 'forgot' to have menu bars as default, the wrong location of the menu once you figure out how to get it back, less toolbar configuration (on firefox I save a lot of vertical space becase I have the menu, personal bookmarks and address bar all in one row), they threw buttons all over the place and forgot some icons like for a new tab. i mean it looks really messed up.

I'm glad they came up with ie7 because it will put more pressure on firefox to make it better...the whole point of firefox was to get us away from a Microsoft dominated internet where everyone would use the same browser forever and you would need windows in order to see the web

#62 Firefox 2.0 on solaris 9 ???

by balanmds

Friday December 1st, 2006 4:02 AM

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From <http://www.mozilla.com/en…leasenotes/#solarisbuilds>, we see that FF is only available on Sol 8 and 10 but not on sol 9. Any idea when/if it would be available. Thanks

#63 Firefox 1.5

by veerakumar

Tuesday May 22nd, 2007 7:38 PM

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Hurray! Firefox 2.0 released! I am still developing for 1.5

My site:

<http://veera.freehostia.com>

<http://veera.aqsite.info>