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Full Article Attached Update on Tree Plan for 0.9.4

Saturday August 25th, 2001

Asa Dotzler has sent in an update to what mozilla.org's plans are for the 0.9.4 milestone. Click the full article link for more info on this, and what you can do to help.


#57 Damage?

by Martyr

Tuesday August 28th, 2001 10:42 AM

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Who does more damage, Mozillaquest, or Macpeep, both who are behind quite a few of dust-ups on Mozillazine messageboards? Both post notoriously wrong and incomplete information. Both ceaselessly dog Moz. Both post the same recycled arguments endlessly. Both claim that the project is an unqualified disaster. You tell me. I don't blame MQ because its owner has no grasp of the technical issues at hand. MacPeep, you ought to know better. MacPeep says that that a 5-year development effort to develop a multiplatform, standards-compliant, open source browser, XML renderer, composer, mail and newsgroup reader mostly from scratch is unrealistic. MacPeep demands that Moz both be the best and first to the finish line, knowing that speed and quality are inherent tradeoffs. I won't regale you with how processes and QA work out here in the real world, but his expectations reveal that he knows nothing about the software industry. I'm dead serious. Moz is a highly-usable product that works almost all the time on many different platforms and is standards-compliant to boot. That's a stunning achievement for an open-source effort, indeed, for any effort at all. But progress judged by reality doesn't impress MacPeep. No, what impresses him is simply conforming to his whim and desires, like the best Dilbertesque upper-level manager. In short, MacPeep constantly says, "I WANT MY TOY NOW!" Real people either help out or shut up, and don't whine because they didn't get their cookies when they wanted them.