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mozilla.org Releases 0.9.2.1

Tuesday August 14th, 2001

mozilla.org today released the source code for 0.9.2.1, which is the code that matches Netscape 6.1. This comes from the 0.9.2 branch, and is being made available both as part of the MPL license requirement, and as a way for third parties to easily use it to write compatible plugins and addon features to Netscape 6.1, as well as Mozilla.


#55 Re: Re: Standards, customization, and more

by stfh

Sunday August 19th, 2001 3:25 PM

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Hmm, interesting. I think the reason you're not getting the kind of answer you expect is that the whole Mozilla community is built around the belief that web sites *shouldn't* use "features" that work in only one browser. That's the kind of stuff that caused the kind of browser-sniffing, code-forking crap of the version-4 browser era which we're still to some extent clinging to. The purpose of the Mozilla organization is not to provide yet another browser with unique features which lock out the competition, but to create a better Web based on standards and freedom.

I'm sure you've heard that a thousand times, though. So if you really want something that shows off Mozilla's unique capabilities, and if it is acceptable for your audience, then I'd suggest you try using XUL. It's an XML-based language which can be used to create complex, robust user interfaces. It's what is used to build the entire Mozilla browser interface, but can be used in web pages as well.

The -moz-border-radius CSS property is also pretty cool, it rounds the corners of CSS box borders.

I disagree with your statement that proprietary aesthetic "features" used in websites are "the things that will cause people to like Mozilla." I believe that (most) people pick a particular browser because (1) it is what is available and easily accessed (such as IE being integrated and the pre-defined default in Windows systems), and/or (2) its user interface makes their browsing experience more pleasant. Almost nobody will choose a browser because it allows web pages to change the scrollbar color or have (IMO annoying) page transitions.

One thing that you don't see mentioned much but absolutely makes Mozilla the best browser experience for me is that you can highlight regular test in a webpage and drag-and-drop it into the url bar or directly onto browser windows. For instance: find a page with an unlinked url in its text content. Highlight the url, then drag it out and back onto the browser window. It'll take you straight there! You can do the same thing with links, and you can drop onto other windows as well. No copy-and-paste steps necessary. I love this and as far as I know no other browser allows it. Not something you can put in a web page, just something I think is incredibly cool.