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Mozilla 0.9.3 Released!

Thursday August 2nd, 2001

mozilla.org today released Mozilla milestone 0.9.3, continuing to work towards a 1.0 release. Preliminary data is showing that 0.9.3 is up to 35% more stable than 0.9.2, thanks to increased focus on stability bugs this milestone. Along with that, the newest incarnation of the Modern has had some additional work since 0.9.2.

Builds are available on mozilla.org's download page (or go right to the FTP directory), along with release notes.


#11 Re: .9.3???

by rkl

Friday August 3rd, 2001 3:40 AM

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I don't know what drugs Mike Angelo is on, but he's clearly one obsessed person - banging on and on about the number of "bugs" (which I suspect he is mis-counting, particularly since many "bugs" are just enhancement requests) and the delays in the release schedule.

Since Mozilla has no commercial deadlines (yes, there's indirect deadline pressure from AOL/Netscape for their Netscape 6.X releases), the constant rant about missing deadlines is pretty laughable in my books.

Also, who is to say that the number of bugs in such a large project as Mozilla isn't typical of most similarly-sized projects ? What are the number of bugs in MSIE for example ? Oh, that's right, it's a closed source project that has never and will never admit how many bugs it has.

And as for "sweeping bugs under the carpet", that's almost libellous. The bugs have NOT disappeared - they've been retargeted for a later release. It's always better to fix a proportion of the targeted bugs quickly (and correctly of course) and release a new version, than to try to fix every single targeted bug (which would add weeks to the release schedule and have Angelo in a rabid release-delay frenzy, so you can't win either way). I have no problem with one or two additional milestones (0.9.5 is looking likely now for example) before the 1.0 release to make sure that all major or worse bugs have been fixed.

Let's put it this way - Mike Angelo is the Steve Gibson of the Mozilla world (has the same taste in bizarre Web site design too :-) ).

From a personal point of view, I consider progress in Mozilla to be: 1) it crashes less, 2) it misbehaves less, 3) it runs/starts up faster and 4) it uses less memory. Almost every milestone so far has managed to fulfil these criteria (Angelo conspicuously fails to comment on these criteria - his "release comments" are purely rants about the number of bugs and release delays and nothing about what it's like in "real world use"), which shows that the Mozilla team are making very good progress with each release. If Angelo was to be believed, the product is becoming *more* unstable because it has more "bugs" - the exact opposite is true.