Full Article Attached Towards Mozilla 1.0

Tuesday June 26th, 2001

Gervase Markham recently posted his feelings on what a 1.0 release of Mozilla would be. Gerv has sent us the follow-up to that posting, including much of the feedback he received. To read it, click the full article link. Once you have read through it, we welcome you to post your feelings on what you think a 1.0 release would have. [As Gerv says, please don't post your favorite list of bugs, only the criteria for choosing what bugs to fix.]

#132 Polish

by davidjoham <>

Thursday June 28th, 2001 10:01 AM

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First off, thanks for asking Gerv. I appreciate y'all listening to us.

In my opinion, Mozilla will not have a successful 1.0 release without a concentrated effort on polish. From the talkbacks posted, it looks like UI polish has been beaten to death, but I'd like to add a couple of specific areas to make sure are addressed.

1) focus issues 2) Dialogs. I can't count the number of times the download dialog has had buttons off the screen 3) buttons - there are far too many instances where pressing a button does not actually cause the button to appear pressed in the UI. 4) UI performace, specifically with textareas and text controls. These can be very slow at times. 5) Favicon support. Similar to Konqueror's support. Users love this and it says that you care enough to go the extra mile. 6) HTML form control UI. Frankly, they're ugly. Look at any site that collects data in IE, Moz and Konqueror. Moz looks really bad where IE and Konqi look much better. A little polish on the CSS for the borders and making everything the same height would do wonders here.

I would also like to point out that there is another class of users for your product that demand polish as well: developers.

We absolutely need to have confidence that your product will work as we expect. For example, lots of really bad things happen in Mozilla when you use display:none with your CSS. View source is still a little flakey. Mozilla still crashes too much. IE is still faster rendering forms and with its javascript (at lease comparing IE to Moz/Linux).

Personally, I feel that the support Mozilla has now for standards is perfectly fine for a 1.0 release.

In answer to your inevitable question, yes I would prefer to have a polished (end user and developer) 1.0 release than further work on HTML 4.0. The 4.0 support that we have now is sufficient for today's web. 1.1 can be where we put in XSLT and full HTML 4.0 support and fulfill our original promise.

Just my .02