Full Article Attached 0.9.2 Branch and Beyond

Sunday June 24th, 2001

Chris Blizzard has posted an update on current tree management plans for the 0.9.2 branch and the 0.9.3 trunk. The plan calls for to drop the requirement of approval for check ins to the trunk, while continuing it till 0.9.2 is finished on the branch. Chris felt that using 0.9.2 as a stability milestone was a success, partly thanks to the drivers requirement, but mostly due to better self policing by those who were checking in.

When 0.9.2 is completed on the branch, Netscape will take over control of it, and continue checking into it for an upcoming release. The build Netscape chooses to release will also be released by as

Finally, Chris stressed the importance of continued self policing, to keep up the high level of stability that the past 2 weeks have achieved. To read his entire post, click the Full Article link.

#11 Re: Re: MozillaQuest Publishing Rubbish Again

by asa <>

Monday June 25th, 2001 12:14 AM

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If you want numbers then go to bugzilla (or someone who knows bugzilla). The bug fixing rate has been steadily increasing over the last 4 months. the number of bugs fixed in the last 3 weeks is well over 900. compare that to the 1600+ bugs fixed in the 6 weeks of the previous milestone and (taking into account the additional slowdown associated with a 3rd level of review on each bugfix, something new to this shortened milestone) even the most remedial in math can see that bug fixing is going up not down. Take a few minutes to look over the talkback, topcrash and mtbf (mean time between failure) statistics and notice that hundreds of crashers and scores of topcrasher bugs have been fixed in the last two milestones and see that mean time between failures has more than doubled in the last two milestones. mangelo's querying abilities and understanding of both the process of bug triage and fixing doesn't even approach remedial. His statistics are both meaningless and misleading. And if you think that he (or anyone else) has a better grasp of Bugzilla, the bug counts, the milestone triage process, talkback and mtbf stats, etc. than I do then feel free to post some numbers to refute my accounts of the progress in these areas that we've made in the last couple months.

Anyone who has been paying close attention to the process even as long as mangelo has been posting his mozilla commentary could probably give a more meaningful and accurate account of the bugfixing progress that we've made. mangelo only recently started posting stats (when I talked to him about three months ago he said he couldn't query bugzilla becuase it was too hard and it would "involve him with the project" and "compromise his journalistic integrity) and the first three attempts he's made at posting bug stats have all been so far off-base as to be laughable. (it's really not that hard to get useful numbers from Bugzilla. it should be especailly easy for a computer savvy member of the press like mangelo)