Netscape 6.1 Beta 1

Tuesday June 12th, 2001

Netscape today released a beta of their upcoming 6.1 release, based on the mozilla 0.9.1 branch. Check out the release notes, or grab the build.

#211 Re: Mozilla is faster than IE 5.5 in loading

by macpeep

Saturday June 23rd, 2001 12:11 PM

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Also remember that Microsoft kicks your dog, scratches your car, spits in your food and pisses in your beer. These are all good reasons to use Mozilla that you forgot to mention.

"I think we can finally say that Mozilla is the most complete browser in the world. If anyone disagrees, why don't you give some reasons instead of attacking the engineers."

Relax a little. I don't think anyone has been "attacking the engineers". Maybe I've missed some posts here? Anyway, I'll give you some reasons why I don't consider Mozilla the "most complete browser in the world" - YET.

1) The thumbs-up-with-exclamation-mark rated nightly build took *3* attempts until it started for me this morning. Yes, I had deleted my profiles etc. etc.

2) I click on a form field and it resizes. Text is vertically misaligned in the textfields. Combo boxes have native scrollbars.

3) Mozilla crashes about once per hour for me. IE crashes maybe once a week or so and it doesn't bring down the OS like people like to comment. I'm on a Win2K box with IE 5.5 SP1. Maybe I'm lucky, but most people I know feel the same way.

4) The "Bookmarks" in the sidebar take a single click on folders to expand and a double click on arrows. History is reverse (and correct) from this. In "Manage bookmarks", the behavior is correct.

5) Resize a column header in Mail & News, move it one pixel and the columns to the right collapse. Move it one more and they revert back. There are also rounding errors in the column headers, causing borders to be 2 pixels sometimes, 1 pixels at other times.

6) About a gazillion of one-pixel alignments etc. that are off.

I could go on for a long, long time.. The bottom line is that I just don't see Mozilla being as finished and polished as IE yet. And hey, it's not FINISHED yet, so that's perfectly ok.

But it was you who claimed it was the most complete browser in the world and you asked if someone disagrees. Well, I do.. and above are a few reasons why.

As far as making a site about negative Mozilla news, I couldn't care less. I have no interest in spreading bad news about Mozilla. I'm hoping the project would turn out great. That doesn't mean I'll put blindfolds on and run around like a headless chicken screaming "M4 is the best browser in the world!!".