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Microsoft Says Standards Compliance Bad for Business

Monday November 9th, 1998

Joel Caris writes in with this link to an interesting article at The Industry Standard. Apparently Microsoft has some issues with standards compliance. Joel writes:

"I must admit, Microsoft really is the king of spin. This link leads to an article from The Industry Standard about the WSP asking for full CSS-1 compliance in IE 5.0. It is mentioned how Netscape will fully support CSS-1 and CSS-2 in 5.0. Microsoft's spin on this?

'By making future version of Navigator fully compliant with CSS-1 and CSS-2, the company runs the risk of breaking pages on the Web that were created with past version of the browser,' Herman said."

When you read the article, note also how Microsoft implies that Netscape is responsible for the lack of standards compliance in IE!


#3 Getting dizzy from the spin yet?

by Matthew Thomas <spiff@3dmail.com>

Tuesday November 10th, 1998 4:31 PM

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This is hilarious! It's almost on a par with Microsoft's desperate spin on the Halloween documents. Let's see what we have here:

* `Microsoft is committed to having ``the leading support for Web standards,'' which is reflected in the fact that IE 4.0 and IE 5.0 support 90 percent of the CSS-1 specification, according to Joe Herman, product manager for Microsoft's platform marketing.' So, Herman seems to be trying to claim that IE5's 90-percent support for CSS1 will be `leading' over Mozilla 5's 100-percent support. Oh, sure.

* `[Herman] added that CSS-1 doesn't serve its purpose when other browsers do not support it.' What? This is nuts! If this were true, then Netscape would never have bothered implementing frames, Java, or JavaScript, and MS would never have bothered implementing ... uh ... iframes, incompatible Java extensions, and VBScript :-), simply because `other browsers' did not support those things at the time. In fact, there would never have been any innovation in Web standards at all!

* `By making future version of Navigator fully compliant with CSS-1 and CSS-2, the company runs the risk of breaking pages on the Web that were created with past version of the browser, Herman said.' Oh, right, so now he's saying that Netscape should continue with buggy CSS implementation, because that's what Web developers have learnt how to work around? If you did a survey of Web developers, I think you'd find them glad to pay the price of a little legacy page-breaking for the sake of a decent CSS implementation.

And a final note, the article says `The beta release of Netscape Navigator 5.0 is scheduled by year's end'. Really? Why didn't we hear about this?

Sorry for the long comment, but FUD like this gets on my nerves. (-: