Modern 3 and Autocomplete Test Build Available

Monday April 23rd, 2001

Asa Dotzler writes:
"For those of you who are interested in helping us test new features (or just like to get a sneak preview of things to come) there is an experimental Windows build with the new autocomplete widget and the new modern theme available at Please post theme feedback and autcomplete issues here until it is checked into the trunk."

Joe Hewitt wants to also let folks know that the new skin is only half way done, and to be gentle on him...

#126 toolbar images and throbbers

by macpeep

Wednesday April 25th, 2001 10:06 AM

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I've looked at the screenshots for a couple of minutes now and contemplated for a while..

I've come to the conclusion (same as a lot of people here) that the images (the envelope and the fake-screenshot steering wheel) definitely look good but that they definitely shouldn't be on the left side. Toolbar widgets are anchored on the left edge of the window and when you resize, you manipulate the empty space on the right of the toolbar widgets. If you miss something there, it's not the end of the world. On the left side though, there's no extra space. This too is a reason to move the images to the right side - or even completely remove them.

Second issue comes up both by looking at the screenshots and by moving the images to the right side of the toolbar. The throbber is a problem.. The throbber in the screenshots is smaller than it could be. It is also DIFFERENTLY sized for the browser and the rest of the apps because of the different styles on the toolbars. Provided that there's just one style and that the style is the new mail-news one, we are now sitting with a small throbber and no good way to put the toolbar images (envelope, steering wheel etc.) on the right side.

The MozillaZine admin had a good idea. Let's drop the throbber (the way it is now) and make the toolbar images be the throbber - either functionally or just simply by being on the right edge of the toolbar. We still have a progress meter on the status bar so we don't really NEED the animation on the throbber. And let's face it, the throbbers have been there since what - 1993 at least - and there's really very little added value in them. Why not drop the throbber and use the saved space for cool toolbar graphics?

And just to make the point one more time.. WE NEED CONSISTENCY! There should only be ONE size of throbbers (if there are any). There should only be ONE type of toolbar. There should only be ONE look for icons.