I'm running the experimental build now. It has a few kinks, but that's why it's considered experimental, but the new autocomplete simply ROCKS and Modern is finally at the color shades that I REALLY like.

I can't wait til they smooth things out and land it in the nightlies!

Alex

Yes, the autocomplete is a nice tool now.

I'm a little bit unsure if the scrolling has to continue (when i reach the last entry) on the top again. ...at least it impress with it speed while doing it.

One small point: I don't like it that the html-titles are in italic. Italic doesn't render nicely on most systems. Maybe we could be brave and try a normal (non-italic) form in a different color.

a nice dark-gray-blue or something else that fit with the new modern3

Will they make it into 0.9? It looks like bug 43189 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43189 is the autocomplete widget. Targeted for 0.9.1. I'm looking forward to it.

I'm guessing bug 74641 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74641 is the one to watch for the new modern theme. It's 0.9.1, too.

i really really like the new theme.. its looking great. im going to hammer on this bad boy for the rest of the night and see what bugs can be found.

The new autocomplete functionality rocks, but missing one key feature... TAB support. Tab should cycle through the list of matching entries... Otherwise, it's great!

Justin

http://www.phj.productions.de/moz/modern3_exp.png

http://www.phj.productions.de/moz/modern3_ac.png

screenshot in png-24bit (...hope that the colors are still true) for the non-windows users outside.

I'm running the new chrome simply by replacing my current build's chrome directory with the chrome directory from this windows' build. Works excellent, and look great! Great job hewitt!

Is there going to be a test build for Linux? It looks really good. The autocomplete is one of my few complaints and actually think the way IE does it is the best. From the screenshots it looks like this has been fixed.

The new skin looks really cool too.

Is there going to be a test build for Linux? It looks really good. The autocomplete is one of my few complaints and actually think the way IE does it is the best. From the screenshots it looks like this has been fixed.

The new skin looks really cool too.

Well, this is much better than the first screenshot that was posted. It strikes me that the icons in mail-news were changed cause I remember those getting pretty good feedback. Still, I like the new icons. Four main things that I see that are still not "fixed" that got a lot of negative feedback:

1) The thick borders around the but browser buttons. 2) The two different looking toolbars (browsers vs. the rest) with different sized throbbers etc. 3) The sidebar tabs - most people I remember seeing feedback from think the old Modern 2 ones are much cooler (me included). 4) The dark widgets - but these were supposed to be fixed if I remember right. (I'm talking about the nearly black ones).

The color seems to have changed to a more blue (and lighter) one so either my monitor or the skin has been whacked into shape. Good job in any case. :)

In case you all can't tell by seeing how crappy parts of Modern3 look, it is still only half done. We had finished a fully working version with the old design, and as the new design rolled in I've replaced graphics as I get them from Marlon.

Some things still around from the old design: sidebar tabs, navigator toolbar buttons, taskbar icons, all standard widgets.

I've just looked at the screenshots and I liked what I have seen. I wonder what the skin name will be "modern/1.1" or "modern/3.0"? I hope you will not reuse "modern/1.0" cause this will break my and other add-on packages for "modern/1.0".

Masi still being a little pissed off that XUL for NS6 and Moz1.0 differ breaking 3rd party code.

Running it now. New widget rocks! And new skin is much better than modern 2

...are really ugly compared to the new mail/news buttons !

i hope you can redesign them and make them consistent with the new mail/news buttons, which are really cool !

great job, Joe.

Well, I\\\\\\\'m sure there are political reasons for having the browser buttons they way they are but lets face, mail-news and composer look much better than the browser - the images on the browser toolbar have defects in the shape (aren\\\\\\\'t they usually round?) and should really be a consistant look which ties in with mail-news (which is the best example of all the apps).

Obvously the hard part is creativity -coming up with appropriate icons in the given style. but I think it will be worth it (the politicians that say the browser buttons should look the way they do will follow if you get it right). If I\\\\\\\'m wrong and there is no reason for keeping the browser buttons in the style they have then get it sorted - what are you thinking?? This stuff is important to the success of the whole mozilla project because it affects user acceptance.

Just my two pence.

It does no auto-complete, or did i miss something ?? It only shows a list, but the auto-complete (the only thing that was much better than the IE version) is simply gone :(((

I want to type: www.mo and hit enter to reach mozillazine, why did they change this ??

It does no auto-complete, or did i miss something ?? It only shows a list, but the auto-complete (the only thing that was much better than the IE version) is simply gone :(((

I want to type: www.mo and hit enter to reach mozillazine, why did they change this ??

I love the mail look, but the browser really needs a redone. This is completly different to modern 2.0 so maybe we should have 3 themes packed with mozilla or at least make the "old" modern avaiable somewhere.

First bug I found: You can select to display the "go" button in the browser, but that doesnßt work.

George

2. Bug I found : After switching themes from classic to modern and back, the line to enter the path goes to low and the search button looks a bit strange.

George

I like the new mail theme but it's gonna take a bit of getting used to. At the moment I keep clicking the envelope logo on the left to get mail!

I like the new mail theme but it's gonna take a bit of getting used to. At the moment I keep clicking the envelope logo on the left to get mail!

yup, for the first time in a few months I decided to use windows just to checkout this build.

I was shocked, the GUI.. not only looking much better than the old Modern, is just as quick as native Win GUIs! Window creation is about a second slower than Netscape, popup menu still takes about 1 second, but the rest is.. amazing.

If someone made a perfect copy of the IE GUI for Mozilla, (yes, i know of the ones at themes.org) then i honestly couldnt tell the difference unless I'd open a new window, or used the popup menu! Okay, sometimes the "File | Edit .. " menus slow down a little, but damn..

*nix guru's, damnwell get your butt overhere and start optimizing the *nix specific code! ;)

exaggurating? maybe.. but i'm impressed, very impressed.. I'm tempted in using Windows for a while.. and that says much.. just for this build

oh, the skin.. ofcourse, yah great work people ;)

Before I make my point, let me say thanks for the preview - it's nice to play with this a bit while we can still influence the design.

But I wonder about the timing of this - now that people can play with this, is the next milestone going to be used? People will simply stick with this build until it (the new UI & autocomplete) appear in the nightlies?

Anyway - what's the plan for the new UI? Is this the only preview we'll see until it's in the tree, or are you going to make more experimental builds for us to play with?

Fake Screenshot for Modern3 in Navigator

I wondered how this changes would look like in the Navigator window. especially the envelope icon and the new button style.

So everybody here is usually just writing "do it yourself" ... so i did.

I faked a screenshot of a navigator window. Its a photoshop fake... it's has nothing to do with the ongoing design or the people working on it professionally. I like to contribute it too keep the interessting discussion of last time alive... beliving that this pixel moving images stuff is more important to the end-user than most of the hackers think.

The fake is of course not perfect and polished. But if you are really wondering "how would it look like if...." maybe reply and if i find some sparetime i can contribute some other fake screenshots.

Sorry for the ugly ship steering wheel couldn't make a perfect on in this short time. I tried to follow the concept of mail, where the envelope is the repeating icon s the wheel should it be in nav.

if also put the photoshop files on the server, just in case anbody else like to waste an hour in front of photoshop.

with bookmarkbar and onMouseover http://www.phj.productions.de/moz/modern3_fake_nav1.png

without http://www.phj.productions.de/moz/modern3_fake_nav2.png

directory http://www.phj.productions.de/moz/

...nothing that is real need to this browser.... this modern eats more from viewing space... autocompleat add some netscape stuff ... that are useless for rest of the world....i know that for americans there is US and the rest of the world ... so the rest nothing special in this things... mozilla needs : performance, simple view, not showing any new inovation at first start.. why ... becouse mozilla(netscape) lose the war... so to win it need exsactly the same features as IE but fastest and more secure.... i can't imagine that there is az manager who thinks diffrent.... apples thinks diffrent and aren't very successful for THE REST OF THE WORLS ... even for US

The are a couple of things about the new autocomplete that are improvements. It feels snappier, and I like the titles that accompany the URLS. **But** Most of the changes actually detract from usability. Showing all of the possible matches of the typed sting is counterproductive, if they are show in alphabetical order. Why? Because it hides some the most commonly used URLs, and shows me many URLs I never wish to visit again. For instance, I often visit the www.washingtonpost.com and read various news articles there. Most of those articles I never will return to, but I will return to www.washingtonpost.com (the main page) many times. So with the new autocomplete, I am given too many choices - clutter, basically. That clutter also serves to hide other URLs I use more often, such as webmail.netscape.com or www.washingtontimes.com, which I will now have to scroll past tons of junk to arrive at. By that time, I could have typed the URL. My suggestion is either sort with either most commonly used URLs appearing first, or to sort to show short paths first. Another possibility is that the longer URLs (such as the specific articles at washingtonpost.com) be shown only after a keyboard shortcut is pressed. Please do not eliminate Mozilla's previous autocomplete advantages over IE. IE does **NOT** always do things in the most optimal manner.

Is anyone else having problems with secure sites on this experimental build? Every single SSL site I've tried turns into an endless loop of mozilla opening new window after new window - like a porn site or something (ex: https://cubmail.cc.columbia.edu/ ).

The good news is Mozilla is getting much faster, because these windows open rather quickly. Of course, that's what also makes this suck!

unfortunatly I'm going to have to say I'm against the new autocomplete feature - I like the old method much better. I also don't like the new modern skin much better than the old. I think I'm going to end up sticking to classic since I just can't get to liking the new modern skins (well its better than the first one! LOL). Not to be negative, but I think that everything is getting to "cartoony". Heck, I though N4 looked too cartoony for me compaired to N3. Is anyone working on alternative skins that can be imported? I do like the gradiant on the URL bar though. Definatly go with that idea!

I must say Moz is pretty smokin nowdays. I remember when Moz finally got far enough to "use"... you click and wait 2 seconds for anything to respond. Now it's just about as responsive (well in many aspects anyway) to the native stuff on windows. "Good job" to anyone that's worked on it.

gah! When did the backspace button start making you go to the previous page instead of "page up" like it used to? Dammit!

For those who didn't know, there's also a document inspector in this build: Tasks > Tools > Document Inspector

Seems like a more advanced version of the DOM Viewer we had for a while

For those who didn't know, there's also a document inspector in this build: Tasks > Tools > Document Inspector

Seems like a more advanced version of the DOM Viewer we had for a while

Thank you all for the interesting feedback on the theme and autocomplete. I've gotten some good ideas for ways to improve autocomplete from your posts.

I agree that the list of autocomplete results is often filled with garbage. We definitely need to sort in a more intelligent way than just alphabetically. I'm thinking that I could sort first by most visited sites, and perhaps also not show urls that have more than a certain number of sub-directories.

Some of you want the url to be inserted in the textbox as you type, while some of you don't. I think that it is only handy to complete the url if the url being completed is the one you want to go to. We could try to determine this by the number of times you have visited a site, or by how may subdirectories are in the url. In cases where no url meets a certain criteria, nothing would be inserted.

Thank you all for the interesting feedback on the theme and autocomplete. I've gotten some good ideas for ways to improve autocomplete from your posts.

I agree that the list of autocomplete results is often filled with garbage. We definitely need to sort in a more intelligent way than just alphabetically. I'm thinking that I could sort first by most visited sites, and perhaps also not show urls that have more than a certain number of sub-directories.

Some of you want the url to be inserted in the textbox as you type, while some of you don't. I think that it is only handy to complete the url if the url being completed is the one you want to go to. We could try to determine this by the number of times you have visited a site, or by how may subdirectories are in the url. In cases where no url meets a certain criteria, nothing would be inserted.

Thanks for listening to us, and for your hard work, Joe. One of the main reasons why I support the Mozilla project is that I have input into it. Your response affirms that that is true. Thanks again.

Document Inspector does rock!!

it's hard to predict which bits of the gui are yet to be finished and all that, but I'd hate to see the hover highlight square clashing with the raised bumps around the buttons on the toolbar like that in the final version.

Otherwise it's looking great. I'm one of those freaks who preferred Modern v1, though. Will it stay an option - it looks so gloriously clunky.

it's hard to predict which bits of the gui are yet to be finished and all that, but I'd hate to see the hover highlight square clashing with the raised bumps around the buttons on the toolbar like that in the final version.

Otherwise it's looking great. I'm one of those freaks who preferred Modern v1, though. Will it stay an option - it looks so gloriously clunky.

The new autocomplete is great, amazingly fast too. One thing i wish it had tho was a section preferences control panel. As you can see from the many posts here, some people like this feature to work in different ways than other people. It would be huge if we could all customize it to our liking. In particular, my suggestion would be to allow the user to turn off the mouse reaction to the list being brought up. I know many people use the mouse to go through the list, but I can\\\'t stand it. Whenever I hilight the textbox the mouse falls somewhere in the list that gets in the way of me pressing the down arrow. (I also hate this in windows autocomplete).

The new gui is great as well, the email topbar makes the app seem so new and professional. I wish it took up less vertical space on the screen, but I can live with that.

Reprinted from my earlier reply:

Though I don't know the coding issues around the autocomplete feature, I suppose that both the address box completion of the a common name root site from an incomplete word AND a drop down list of the most common pages within the site could be available simutaneously.

This way we benifit from both methods of auto-complete.

Just a thought -- cosmic

Looks GREAT from the screenshots. I'll run it shortly. These are big changes that are going to be massive leaps forward for Mozilla.

Since this isn't due to be "out" for a while, it means I can get a new WinAmp/XMMS skin ready on or before this gets released! Get ready for MozAmp 3.0!

MozAmp Blue [dead, no link] MozAmp 2.0 [http://www.winamp.com/skins/detail.jhtml?componentId=51175]

I love both the skin and the autocomplete. My only complaint would be that the autocomplete should not suggest all my previous typos that have resulted in 404's. Any way to filter out those?

Also I agree that the envelope looks great, but I still keep clicking it to get new messages.

this starts to get pretty frustrating. I really loved the build bar and relied on it. I understand that Asa is out of time to maintain it. but if no else is going to take his place, you should better remove it altogether. otherwise it looks like the last usable build was from April 12...

Oliver

P.S.: one other thing which i think has been missing for a real long time on mo'zine is a general mozillazine discussion forum aside from the feedback sections. best example is this post: it has nothing to do with the original post, yet where else should I have posted it?

Im getting 2 weird bugs with the experimental build. When I go to https://service.capitalone.com/cgi/Home?Login , it opens up IE.

The browser opened up the download dialog when I tried to go to this page http://www.mlx.ml.com/_mem_bin/FormsLogin.asp?/coresite

Anyone else experience these happenings?

I like what I've seen of the new Modern3 theme. However, I think the envelope icon in the upper-left corner of the mailnews window should go. It looks good, but the space it takes up interferes with the function of the toolbar.

It's a minor issue, but the color of the scrollbar needs to be lightened a tad to match the browser.

I've looked at the screenshots for a couple of minutes now and contemplated for a while..

I've come to the conclusion (same as a lot of people here) that the images (the envelope and the fake-screenshot steering wheel) definitely look good but that they definitely shouldn't be on the left side. Toolbar widgets are anchored on the left edge of the window and when you resize, you manipulate the empty space on the right of the toolbar widgets. If you miss something there, it's not the end of the world. On the left side though, there's no extra space. This too is a reason to move the images to the right side - or even completely remove them.

Second issue comes up both by looking at the screenshots and by moving the images to the right side of the toolbar. The throbber is a problem.. The throbber in the screenshots is smaller than it could be. It is also DIFFERENTLY sized for the browser and the rest of the apps because of the different styles on the toolbars. Provided that there's just one style and that the style is the new mail-news one, we are now sitting with a small throbber and no good way to put the toolbar images (envelope, steering wheel etc.) on the right side.

The MozillaZine admin had a good idea. Let's drop the throbber (the way it is now) and make the toolbar images be the throbber - either functionally or just simply by being on the right edge of the toolbar. We still have a progress meter on the status bar so we don't really NEED the animation on the throbber. And let's face it, the throbbers have been there since what - 1993 at least - and there's really very little added value in them. Why not drop the throbber and use the saved space for cool toolbar graphics?

And just to make the point one more time.. WE NEED CONSISTENCY! There should only be ONE size of throbbers (if there are any). There should only be ONE type of toolbar. There should only be ONE look for icons.

most of your comments are good, but we should definitely keep the throbber idea up in the right hand, people like my granddad unconsciously know that when that thing up there is animating that the browser is still working. Its a de facto standard that works.

i hacked some animated enveloppe and wheel to replace the throbber in that fake screenshot. it's crude, it's an ugly hack (sorry for that) but it does demonstrate what the throbber could be, doesn't it ?

http://mozillazine-fr.org/tests/modern3_wish_RvR.html

(obviously, the animated enveloppe throbs while retrieving mail, while the wheel throbs while retrieving a web page)

I like the new skin, but one thing: Mozilla really REALLY should use Windows' colour schemes -- like Classic.

I would like a version of Modern that uses Windows widgets (OK/Cancel boxes), and Windows colours (like Classic).

Alternatively, I would like a version of classic which had Modern icons (especially the ones for Mail!)

I like the new skin, but one thing: Mozilla really REALLY should use Windows' colour schemes -- like Classic.

I would like a version of Modern that uses Windows widgets (OK/Cancel boxes), and Windows colours (like Classic).

Alternatively, I would like a version of classic which had Modern icons (especially the ones for Mail!)

Echoing points made by others and introducing some new ones, in no particular order:

* The new icons in Mail and Address Book are _wonderful_ improvements over the old theme(s). I won't comment on the icons in Navigator or Composer because I suspect that these are either placeholders or first drafts. It is good to see an effort to match the softness (and ease on the user's eyes) of the icons in IE6/Luna (the browser and desktop icons as opposed to other aspects of Luna).

* One commenter asked for the Windows-default colors. I strongly echo the need for an earthtone base to your color scheme. While my eyes are color-deficient, it would appear that the new scheme tones down some of the pink of previous versions (but doesn't eliminate it entirely) and then combines such with green and baby blue highlights. To my eyes, the new colors don't work. IE6's earthtone base and complementary icon colors are far easier to stare at for hours (i.e. if you are working on email) and far less likely to clash with the color of visted web sites. Beyond past bugs and sluggishness, the number one reason why I haven't switched back to Netscape was what I considered to be the garish colors (in modern 1 & 2) and chunky nature of the included themes.

* Don't mix and match photographs and cartoonish icons. It's a clash of design styles. Pick one or the other and stick with it throughout the program. Either use something akin to Luna or MacOS X but don't try to combine both because it doesn't work. I prefer the subtle cartoon nature of the current icons like the printer.

* Don't include pictures that are nonfunctional (like the envelope on the left side) anywhere. This will confuse users because they won't know what button to click. Always remember the grandma test.

* Regardless of the style in which you depict the icons, align all of them on the same axis. BeOS had a very uniform look and feel to the OS's icons, applying an approximately 45 degree perspective to all icons. You can choose whatever angle you prefer to indicate 3 dimensions but once chosen, please stick with that angle throughout as much as possible. Similarly, shadowing should be applied to all icons and consistently.

* Include a user option to remove the throbber. If it must be included by default, fine. But I consider it a useless waste of my screen real estate given the progress thermometer on the task bar.

* Speaking of real estate, make every effort to reduce the amount of the desktop occupied by the Mozilla interface. This includes the taskbar, which is almost the right height when "turned off" in the demonstration build. Things like icons for other components of Mozilla should be incorporated in this small task/status bar or eliminated from the GUI. The t-bar used in the mailing program should be put on a diet. Consider the use of alpha-blending to separate screen items (see the MacOS X for an example of how the menu bar is separated from the desktop).

* Borders should be the same color pallete and thickness throughout. For example, the scrollbars are very thick and dark pink. The sidebar's index tabs (titles) are similar. Without consistency of colors and thickness, my eyes are drawn first to the scrollbar and tabs and then to the icons. Things like the t-bar should be almost invisible.

* Replace the widgets in the HTML render with similarly soft widgets. Beta 1 of Windows XP better demonstrated buttons and pull down menus than Luna.

* Finally and importantly, simplify the menu items. There's too much from which to select. IE has always had a more intuitive menu structure, burying most of the least used configuration settings on the options > advanced screen. That's the best place for such. Examples of what could be moved/hidden include: pruning the new / open on the file menu to one each, a la IE; removing the search Menu and access that functionality via an icon on the navigation toolbar; eliminating use style sheet, page info, languages and web content, character coding and theme from the view menu (most of these are configuration settings that should be in preferences anyway). In summary, the interface should be as streamlined as possible so as to speed the adoption curve for newbies and eliminate clutter for experienced folk. If a menu item isn't used all the time, then it should be moved as appropriate. The exception to this rule is where the removal of a menu item would represent a significant departure from the Windows interface standard and thus confuse users who are used to a location (if for no other reason than 90% of your potential user base is familiar with that standard).

Echoing points made by others and introducing some new ones, in no particular order:

* The new icons in Mail and Address Book are _wonderful_ improvements over the old theme(s). I won't comment on the icons in Navigator or Composer because I suspect that these are either placeholders or first drafts. It is good to see an effort to match the softness (and ease on the user's eyes) of the icons in IE6/Luna (the browser and desktop icons as opposed to other aspects of Luna).

* One commenter asked for the Windows-default colors. I strongly echo the need for an earthtone base to your color scheme. While my eyes are color-deficient, it would appear that the new scheme tones down some of the pink of previous versions (but doesn't eliminate it entirely) and then combines such with green and baby blue highlights. To my eyes, the new colors don't work. IE6's earthtone base and complementary icon colors are far easier to stare at for hours (i.e. if you are working on email) and far less likely to clash with the color of visted web sites. Beyond past bugs and sluggishness, the number one reason why I haven't switched back to Netscape was what I considered to be the garish colors (in modern 1 & 2) and chunky nature of the included themes.

* Don't mix and match photographs and cartoonish icons. It's a clash of design styles. Pick one or the other and stick with it throughout the program. Either use something akin to Luna or MacOS X but don't try to combine both because it doesn't work. I prefer the subtle cartoon nature of the current icons like the printer.

* Don't include pictures that are nonfunctional (like the envelope on the left side) anywhere. This will confuse users because they won't know what button to click. Always remember the grandma test.

* Regardless of the style in which you depict the icons, align all of them on the same axis. BeOS had a very uniform look and feel to the OS's icons, applying an approximately 45 degree perspective to all icons. You can choose whatever angle you prefer to indicate 3 dimensions but once chosen, please stick with that angle throughout as much as possible. Similarly, shadowing should be applied to all icons and consistently.

* Include a user option to remove the throbber. If it must be included by default, fine. But I consider it a useless waste of my screen real estate given the progress thermometer on the task bar.

* Speaking of real estate, make every effort to reduce the amount of the desktop occupied by the Mozilla interface. This includes the taskbar, which is almost the right height when "turned off" in the demonstration build. Things like icons for other components of Mozilla should be incorporated in this small task/status bar or eliminated from the GUI. The t-bar used in the mailing program should be put on a diet. Consider the use of alpha-blending to separate screen items (see the MacOS X for an example of how the menu bar is separated from the desktop).

* Borders should be the same color pallete and thickness throughout. For example, the scrollbars are very thick and dark pink. The sidebar's index tabs (titles) are similar. Without consistency of colors and thickness, my eyes are drawn first to the scrollbar and tabs and then to the icons. Things like the t-bar should be almost invisible.

* Replace the widgets in the HTML render with similarly soft widgets. Beta 1 of Windows XP better demonstrated buttons and pull down menus than Luna.

* Finally and importantly, simplify the menu items. There's too much from which to select. IE has always had a more intuitive menu structure, burying most of the least used configuration settings on the options > advanced screen. That's the best place for such. Examples of what could be moved/hidden include: pruning the new / open on the file menu to one each, a la IE; removing the search Menu and access that functionality via an icon on the navigation toolbar; eliminating use style sheet, page info, languages and web content, character coding and theme from the view menu (most of these are configuration settings that should be in preferences anyway). In summary, the interface should be as streamlined as possible so as to speed the adoption curve for newbies and eliminate clutter for experienced folk. If a menu item isn't used all the time, then it should be moved as appropriate. The exception to this rule is where the removal of a menu item would represent a significant departure from the Windows interface standard and thus confuse users who are used to a location (if for no other reason than 90% of your potential user base is familiar with that standard).

The new Modern theme looks absolutely fantastic.

The new icons for Mail, News etc. look brilliant, as does the colour scheme.

Also, a point for debate, but maybe once you have clicked on a link in the autocomplete window it should appear in the address box as soon as you click it, rather than once you are actually on the page?

I would love to see those ugly colors for button and tabs to be changed a.s.a.p. When you open Composer, for example, you hardly see the text on those buttons, do you. The buttons are to dark, at least when you compare it with all other nice stuff.

So Hewitt, nice work, but please change the button/tab color because they are simply to ugly for the rest of it.

I have used this build to test MultiZilla and didn't like those colors at all. When you like to learn more about MultiZilla please follow this http://members.v3spave.com/4you2/multiviews/multiviews.html