Roadmap updated for Mozilla 0.9

Thursday April 19th, 2001

James 'kovu' Russell writes in:
" recently updated the Mozilla Roadmap to reflect the crash landings that necessitated the 0.8.1 release. Groups embedding Mozilla are encouraged to target 0.9.1 for their beta branch point. 0.9.1 is currently slated for release May 25th."

The tree has closed for 0.9, so expect to start seeing 0.9 test build on next week at some time.

#22 OUCH

by stfh

Saturday April 21st, 2001 10:26 PM

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Don't know if it's even worth responding to your rant. Obviously you've been building up a lot of frustration, and I'm sorry that the good folks who read these discussions had to hear it come out.

Do you think, perhaps, that the issues you pointed out may NOT be simple things to fix? That they may be more involved than you think? If you don't know how to program in C++, how can make a judgement on how easy or hard something is? Keep in mind, too, that you don't have to know C++ to work on parts of Mozilla... most of the UI work is done using web-standard languages such as XML, JavaScript, and CSS. If you know these technologies then you CAN contribute.

Losing your temper and throwing personal insults at the programmers is just mean-spirited. Programming is like puzzle-solving; the answer isn't always immediately obvious. You have to work at problems a long time. Sometimes you have to go back and redo things better. Just because already over-burdened programmers may not be able to spend many hours on a complex problem when there are many other issues that might be a better use of their time, doesn't mean that they don't care about that bug. And it certainly doesn't mean that "they don't know how to render web pages period" when the Mozilla rendering engine renders pages more beautifully, correctly, and quickly than any other browser I've seen. (And using MSIE as the benchmark of how web pages should be rendered is a mistake; the only reason many sites look best in IE is because web developers have gotten used to writing incorrect code to accommodate it. Use standard coding practices and Mozilla does beautifully while IE flops. We set our bar higher.)

Your concerns about the bugs you mentioned are understandable. But your condemnation of everyone's hard work is not. Please stop taking your own frustrations out on others, and apply them to something more constructive. Mozilla is a community. We're all here to help each other. But temper tantrums don't help anything.