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Tuesday April 10th, 2001

Here are this week's reports. Featured are Beonex and Hermes. Enjoy!

#58 Re: re: handling negative feedback constructively

by macpeep

Wednesday April 18th, 2001 11:50 PM

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Do I know what 0.9 will be like? I can extrapolate from 0.8, 0.8.1 and the current nightlies. From that, I see that it's not going to be "very close to final" but that can of course be discussed. Kinda funny that you should ask me a question like that tho, after proclaimin in all-caps as a fact that "0.9 will be REALLY close to final".

Regarding 0.8.1 features I agree that the renderer is starting to be of release quality. Some important bugfixes remain but those bugs can relatively easily go un-noticed, which means it's not too bad for the general public. (textfields being too tall and forms not submitting all fields under some conditions spring to mind)

"The UI is fast and stable", you say. Here I definitely don't agree. I have a 500MHz Athlon with 128 megs of RAM at home and on that machine the UI is usable but definitely sluggish and since the browser crashes a couple of times per hour, I couldn't call it "stable" no matter how hard I tried. Maybe it's not the *UI* that crashes but how am I supposed to know that - or you for that matter?

Like I always want to point out after a negative post; I'm not here to say "Mozilla sucks". The reason I follow the Mozilla project is that I want it to succeed. I file bugs, test nightly builds, discuss topics in newsgroups etc. It's just that I'm nowhere near as optimistic as a lot of people on MozillaZine are. I still feel that IE 5.5 is *LIGHTYEARS* ahead as a browser (forget security bugs etc. for a minute). It's fast, it's stable, the UI is very responsive and it's standards compliant enough that it's not a major (or even minor) problem for web designers or users. Until Mozilla is at least on par with IE, very few are going to switch. And let's not forget that while Mozilla is supported on a million platforms, IE is supported on Win32, Mac, Solaris and HP-UX. Even with just Win32 and Mac, that's somewhere between 98% and 99% of the userbase, depending on your source. With IE6 coming up and being even more standards compliant than 5.5, I can't help but be very worried when I see the quality of the recent nightly builds and the comments about Mozilla being close to final now.

I sure hope THIS isn't close to final because MUCH more work is needed.