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Mozilla 0.8.1 Released!

Monday March 26th, 2001

mozilla.org today shipped Mozilla 0.8.1. Builds are available on the ftp server and release notes are also available.

Mozilla 0.8.1 continues on the road to 1.0, and is one of the last milestones prior to it. The next planned milestone will be 0.9, and will branch on or around April 20. Following that will either be a 0.9.1 release or a 1.0 branch on the 20th of May. More info on the milestone plan is available on the mozilla.org roadmap page.

Mozilla 0.8.1's new features include an updated Chatzilla, a much improved Javascript console, improved theme switching and support for theme uninstalling, new history viewer ala mozClassic, improved mail filtering, and numerous other bug fixes. 0.8.1 does not include the new Outliner Mail Window, the new disk cache, or imglib2.


#35 I stand by my "unrealisticaly optimistic" comments

by SailorV

Tuesday March 27th, 2001 7:55 AM

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> "shutup"?

That was a bit rash.

> The truth hurts?

Doesn't hurt me at all. I see IE and Moz being buggy all the time. The difference is that I'm watching the two products move in completely different directions: Moz Project is rapidly evolving the bugs out, while Micro-soft keeps loading IE up with feature-ridden bugs.

> For your information, there's a reason why I'm following the Mozilla project. The reason is that I'm hoping that there would - once again - be a world class Netscape web browser.

Sir, you have just spoken for the entire Project. That's why we're ALL here.

> I don't like the fact that Microsoft is the only manufacturer with a good web browser.

Some of us have options and alternatives besides the Big Two. To call IE a good web browser is a purely subjective testimonial; what's good for the goose is NOT good for the gander. In areas where Nutscrape isn't better than IE, it is certainly safer and more stable: if NS crashes, only NS goes bye bye; but if IE crashes, you may or may not be able to recover any of your computer's data.

> Unfortunately though, that's the truth right now and trying to brain wash people to think that Mozilla is "good" or "ready" does nobody any good.

I'm sorry if my "unrealistically optimistic" comments led you to believe that I was calling Moz ready. It clearly is not; that's why there's going to be a 0.9 and maybe 0.9.1 milestones. Besides, people seem to be too easily brainwashed (or people tend to see brainwashing) by reading praising testimonials of beta projects.

> Do you have any idea how much negative PR Netscape got with version 6 and 6.01? It's a disaster for them!

One has only to look at C|Net.com's home page <http://www.cnet.com/> to find out. That's also why I made the comment that Moz is doomed if NSCP calls Mozilla 1.0 "Netscape Communicator version 6 point" anything.

> Mozilla 0.8.1 is barely any better at all.

My experience differs, but then that's just one experience.

> I have confidence in Mozilla.org and that 1.0 will be good and usable, but to say that 0.8.1 kicks IE5.5 or IE6.0 is just a plain lie.

I share your confidence (clearly), and again, my comments are based on my experience. Your mileage may vary. BTW: I never made any comments about IE6. I've never seen it in action or attempted to use it. (Can anyone else compare Moz0.8.1 and IE6Beta?)

Your negativism does have its uses, if applied critically to actual problems. Your system is different, so your experience is different. But please don't levy charges of "brainwashing" for any praise you see as unfounded, and please don't accuse people of making comparisons that they haven't.

And please DO keep supporting the Project.