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Nautilus PR3

Wednesday January 31st, 2001

Eli Goldberg writes in:
"Nautilus, the file manager for the upcoming GNOME 1.4 desktop on Linux, is now available for download in its third and final preview release.

Nautilus offers a glimpse of the Mozilla embedding we may see in the future: Nautilus users experience remote and local web content through Mozilla. Visit #nautilus on irc.gnome.org if you have any questions."


#15 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: eazel doesn't address linux us

by leafdigital

Tuesday February 6th, 2001 4:24 AM

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Which enterprise is that?

Anyway, the command line is very useful for programmers such as mys'elf. It gives us an easy way to be lazy and write programs with no interface, which saves a lot of time. It also allows use of a few convenient command-line tools. (By the way, I'm not sure how much more powerful the Unix command-line really is than NT - I don't do some of the complex command-lines in NT/2K that I used to in Unix, but that's more a matter of habit and because there are better ways to do it. I did actually have the Cygnus environment thingy installed, with bash etc., but then I found out I never used it...)

But for anybody other than a programmer, it's really essential that in any professional program there are NO comand-lines to type; NO configuration textfiles to edit; none of that. (I don't mean that it shouldn't occasionally be available, for those times when you might want to script a program for example - but in the ordinary use of all features of a program, it should never be required.)

In my view, the original poster is absolutely right in identifying the core problem with Linux usability, and the reason why it will be at least several years before Linux can seriously compete on mainstream desktops. (As opposed to on servers, where it's already doing well.)

Oh, and the elitist crap about 'not thinking' when using a GUI is just that - crap. Let's leave the bullshit propoganda to the past, and move forwards to a future in which yes, command-line tools are very appropriate to certain programming tasks (especially when you try to cobble together numerous existing tools into a dodgy but working system) and some more old-fashioned users may also prefer to use them for file management etc., so there should be an option for that... but EVERY program needs a full and complete GUI interface.

Personally I'd like to see some competition to Microsoft on the desktop, so I hope that Linux applications head towards a more usable baseline sooner rather than later.

--sam