Full Article Attached Discussion: Classic Skin Development Direction

Monday August 7th, 2000

Ben Goodger writes, "Over the past few weeks, Classic skin development has really taken off and the Classic skin is, I believe something that can be used every day, on all three platforms.

I recently posted to the n.p.m.ui newsgroup soliciting feedback on the development. I want to reach a broader audience so I'm asking mozillaZine readership the same questions..."

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#17 General Observations

by TonyG <>

Tuesday August 8th, 2000 5:44 PM

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Echo on > I think the consensus is that Classic should not be a 4.x clone. It should take the best of its ancestors and move on. It needs to have a recognisable appearance but with a 2000+ implementation.

I like how Classic uses the IE4-5 back/forward buttons with the integrated history feature. The latest versions of this button seem to have got wrong the proportions between the main body of the button and the bit down the right hand side for displaying the history.

Going back to Ben's example of the colored background in the Mac version, I think some fresh creativity needs to be thrown into the mix to give it that retro feel but anchor it firmly in the present. Perhaps allow the user to pick backgrounds for the skin or indeed allow them to add their own creation via prefs or a right click => "change toolbar background" option. I would love to work on this feature if someone was willing to give me an hour of their time to point me in the right direction...

This leads me to a question for Ben. Is there any plans to introduce user definable toolbars? Ns 4.x had the modest ability to drag the toolbars up and down. IE has always had the ability to add/delete/reorder the icons/buttons on the toolbar. IE since 4 has had full blown "Coolbars". The current "Customise sidebar" in Mozilla is the kind of thing I mean.

I tell you another thing I like and that is a "Go" button after the location box. I think it would be much more appropriate than the search button. I bet you that search feature is unpopular as it is in a very unusual place. A print button would be useful as well.

1 last suggestion I have. Mozilla is about involvement. How about getting all those arty farty grafix folks involved more by running a competition to design some interfaces for the browser? I recently kicked off a similar event on a site to create a logo for a gaming company. the response was overwhelming and the company now has a seriously kickass logo.

I work with 2 creative directors - 1 designs merchandise for Lucasarts and the other does pure web interface designs for a major software house. Both have said they would love to contribute a design or 2 to the project. Offer a Tee shirt and a credit in the about box and your will get tons of ideas I bet.

PPs Include Aphrodite in the builds. It is a gorgeous skin... :-)