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Weekend Discussion: Microsoft and 86%

Friday July 14th, 2000

There has been a lot of discussion about Microsoft's release of IE 5.5 recently, especially in regards to their support for standards such as CSS, DOM, and XML. Apparently Microsoft is developing new proprietary technologies at the expense of standards compliance in core web technologies.

The conversation in the WSP's mailing list has gotten overheated, and the WSP has released a piece on IE 5.5.

CNet is running an article on IE 5.5's proprietary new features, and there's a discussion on Slashdot regarding this very issue.

I now have a weblog at the O'Reilly Network, and you can check out my first piece, devoted to Microsoft's .NET initiative, which hits on Microsoft's standards support.

With all this hoopla aimed at Microsoft, we shouldn't be letting Netscape off easy. I think it's time for Netscape to come out and state clearly where they expect to be in terms of standards compliance at version 6.0. If it is not the 100% that we had been told to expect, it's in their best interest to say why. Remember, Netscape 6.0 will have its own "behavior" implementation (XBL) that is, at this point, just as proprietary as Microsoft's DHTML behaviors (the dev team plans on submitting XBL to the W3C in the future).

And although Mozilla.org has not taken a position one way or another on Mozilla's standards compliance, it would be nice if they could weigh in and let the community know what they're thinking in terms of standards support in Mozilla's first release.

What do you think about standards support and compliance? Is it important? Or should the placation of existing customers be the priority? Let us know!


#83 IE4, and the future market share of Moz

by jesusX <jesus_x@mozillanews.org>

Wednesday July 19th, 2000 7:51 PM

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First, Most of IE was rewritten from the ground up, yes, but mostly for integration features. The rendering code was the original Spyglass code, and has been built on and rebuilt. At this point, even in 5.5, even MS doesn't know how much code is still original Spyglass code. Very litle to be sure, but enough to warrant a copyright notice.

And AOL will indeed be shofting to the Mozilla codebase for future AOL versions. There's already experimental projects underway. Nothing even close to release yet, but it will happen. I can't imagine anyone who actually would believe the standard corporate lines about how they're not working on it.