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Weekend Discussion: Microsoft and 86%

Friday July 14th, 2000

There has been a lot of discussion about Microsoft's release of IE 5.5 recently, especially in regards to their support for standards such as CSS, DOM, and XML. Apparently Microsoft is developing new proprietary technologies at the expense of standards compliance in core web technologies.

The conversation in the WSP's mailing list has gotten overheated, and the WSP has released a piece on IE 5.5.

CNet is running an article on IE 5.5's proprietary new features, and there's a discussion on Slashdot regarding this very issue.

I now have a weblog at the O'Reilly Network, and you can check out my first piece, devoted to Microsoft's .NET initiative, which hits on Microsoft's standards support.

With all this hoopla aimed at Microsoft, we shouldn't be letting Netscape off easy. I think it's time for Netscape to come out and state clearly where they expect to be in terms of standards compliance at version 6.0. If it is not the 100% that we had been told to expect, it's in their best interest to say why. Remember, Netscape 6.0 will have its own "behavior" implementation (XBL) that is, at this point, just as proprietary as Microsoft's DHTML behaviors (the dev team plans on submitting XBL to the W3C in the future).

And although Mozilla.org has not taken a position one way or another on Mozilla's standards compliance, it would be nice if they could weigh in and let the community know what they're thinking in terms of standards support in Mozilla's first release.

What do you think about standards support and compliance? Is it important? Or should the placation of existing customers be the priority? Let us know!


#62 86% shouldn't be the point now

by Netvigator

Monday July 17th, 2000 3:41 PM

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Agree probably 86% is a bit too high. But we shouldn't get too worried about that (well yet). Mozilla has gone a long way ever since it started and although it's taking painfully long it will get there.

Why I think it will work: 1. Netscape & AOL are the first interested in getting out a good browser ASAP, but without rushing it. Once that it is out things should get better (providing the browser is as stable or more than explorer (not that hard))

2. After this first release more people are bound to make contributions.

3. Market share will definitively be helped if other non-PC surfing devices mean demand for web pages that support standards and hence work with mozilla.

4. I canīt remember how much market share aol has but if things work as it seems and the browser is out by Oct. -sort of- aol could change its layout engine to gecko by the end of the year end the contract with m$ and increase the mozilla share of the market drastically. I afraid we do depend on aol there :-(

so concluding the broswer should be out as soon as it's reasonably possible; that means not overrushing it. If that is managed the future could be bright. We just can't sleep on the laurels.

Netvigator