MozillaZine

Weekend Discussion: Microsoft and 86%

Friday July 14th, 2000

There has been a lot of discussion about Microsoft's release of IE 5.5 recently, especially in regards to their support for standards such as CSS, DOM, and XML. Apparently Microsoft is developing new proprietary technologies at the expense of standards compliance in core web technologies.

The conversation in the WSP's mailing list has gotten overheated, and the WSP has released a piece on IE 5.5.

CNet is running an article on IE 5.5's proprietary new features, and there's a discussion on Slashdot regarding this very issue.

I now have a weblog at the O'Reilly Network, and you can check out my first piece, devoted to Microsoft's .NET initiative, which hits on Microsoft's standards support.

With all this hoopla aimed at Microsoft, we shouldn't be letting Netscape off easy. I think it's time for Netscape to come out and state clearly where they expect to be in terms of standards compliance at version 6.0. If it is not the 100% that we had been told to expect, it's in their best interest to say why. Remember, Netscape 6.0 will have its own "behavior" implementation (XBL) that is, at this point, just as proprietary as Microsoft's DHTML behaviors (the dev team plans on submitting XBL to the W3C in the future).

And although Mozilla.org has not taken a position one way or another on Mozilla's standards compliance, it would be nice if they could weigh in and let the community know what they're thinking in terms of standards support in Mozilla's first release.

What do you think about standards support and compliance? Is it important? Or should the placation of existing customers be the priority? Let us know!


#38 Re: GET IT OUT!!!

by TonyG <tony.gorman@blueyonder.co.Yuk>

Saturday July 15th, 2000 7:39 PM

You are replying to this message

Totally agree. If NS6 doesn't come out soon it will be irrelevant. Its already claiming only 10 percent of the browser share. That is almost irrelevant so IDG books have a point - at least as far as demand is concerned.

You try telling an IT Manager to wait 6 months or more for NS6 to come out, instead of just going totally IE5 and see how far you get.

Even worse, try telling developers to continue to develop for NS4 - never mind 6 - and see how far you get. Daily, more and more web developers are going totally IE because it claims 85% share and because its easier to develop sites for.

I am personally desparate for NS6 to come out as my company is debating at moment whether or not to stop supporting NS4 and go to a totally IE environment. The only thing thats gonna stop it is NS6.