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Weekend Discussion: Microsoft and 86%

Friday July 14th, 2000

There has been a lot of discussion about Microsoft's release of IE 5.5 recently, especially in regards to their support for standards such as CSS, DOM, and XML. Apparently Microsoft is developing new proprietary technologies at the expense of standards compliance in core web technologies.

The conversation in the WSP's mailing list has gotten overheated, and the WSP has released a piece on IE 5.5.

CNet is running an article on IE 5.5's proprietary new features, and there's a discussion on Slashdot regarding this very issue.

I now have a weblog at the O'Reilly Network, and you can check out my first piece, devoted to Microsoft's .NET initiative, which hits on Microsoft's standards support.

With all this hoopla aimed at Microsoft, we shouldn't be letting Netscape off easy. I think it's time for Netscape to come out and state clearly where they expect to be in terms of standards compliance at version 6.0. If it is not the 100% that we had been told to expect, it's in their best interest to say why. Remember, Netscape 6.0 will have its own "behavior" implementation (XBL) that is, at this point, just as proprietary as Microsoft's DHTML behaviors (the dev team plans on submitting XBL to the W3C in the future).

And although Mozilla.org has not taken a position one way or another on Mozilla's standards compliance, it would be nice if they could weigh in and let the community know what they're thinking in terms of standards support in Mozilla's first release.

What do you think about standards support and compliance? Is it important? Or should the placation of existing customers be the priority? Let us know!


#29 Re: Re: Who makes the "standards"?

by offwhite <mozilla@offwhite.net>

Saturday July 15th, 2000 9:29 AM

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Microsoft does get a break from time to time. There was a time when Netscape was more compliant, like 3 years ago. Then W3C released HTML 4.0 and IE suddenly became more standards compliant. They must have influenced the W3C to a degree.

But now MS is again ignoring the standards on the Windows side. And the IE for the Mac team was dissolved because they made such a standards compliant browser it made the Windows team look bad.

The Mozilla teams needs to release a browser now. Forget Instant Messaging and other extras and just release a browser. The ball of wax will just grow while it's marketshare decreases. Fix the current browser bugs and release!!!