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Weekend Discussion: Microsoft and 86%

Friday July 14th, 2000

There has been a lot of discussion about Microsoft's release of IE 5.5 recently, especially in regards to their support for standards such as CSS, DOM, and XML. Apparently Microsoft is developing new proprietary technologies at the expense of standards compliance in core web technologies.

The conversation in the WSP's mailing list has gotten overheated, and the WSP has released a piece on IE 5.5.

CNet is running an article on IE 5.5's proprietary new features, and there's a discussion on Slashdot regarding this very issue.

I now have a weblog at the O'Reilly Network, and you can check out my first piece, devoted to Microsoft's .NET initiative, which hits on Microsoft's standards support.

With all this hoopla aimed at Microsoft, we shouldn't be letting Netscape off easy. I think it's time for Netscape to come out and state clearly where they expect to be in terms of standards compliance at version 6.0. If it is not the 100% that we had been told to expect, it's in their best interest to say why. Remember, Netscape 6.0 will have its own "behavior" implementation (XBL) that is, at this point, just as proprietary as Microsoft's DHTML behaviors (the dev team plans on submitting XBL to the W3C in the future).

And although Mozilla.org has not taken a position one way or another on Mozilla's standards compliance, it would be nice if they could weigh in and let the community know what they're thinking in terms of standards support in Mozilla's first release.

What do you think about standards support and compliance? Is it important? Or should the placation of existing customers be the priority? Let us know!


#23 Re: not quite

by thales

Saturday July 15th, 2000 8:19 AM

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Remember when Netscape had about the same share as IE has now? They added the Netscape extensions. Netscape's NON-standard HTML was used by so many sites that the other browsers had to add teh extensions to view pages correctally. Even IE had to be Netscape compatable. W3c may have set the de jure standards , but Netscape set the de facto standards. IE is close to having the power Netscape had in 1995. If Netscape 6 isn't released this year, the number of IE standard pages will grow so large that most users will consider Netscape broken if it dosen't meet the IE standard. Netscape, Mozilla and Opera will have the choice of adapting the IE standard or joining all the browsers that disapeared when they failed to support the Netscape extensions.