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Friday May 26th, 2000

Today we have an article by Mike Angelo on Mozilla's Chatzilla IRC client. You might recognize Mike's name from his skinning tutorials on WebTools.com. Mike has put together a general introduction to Chatzilla and how to get started using it. Click "Full Article" below to start.


#1 Chatzilla UI

by basic <_basic@yahoo.com>

Friday May 26th, 2000 7:01 PM

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2 questions about Chatzilla:

Is anyone working on getting chatzilla to open in multiple windows?

How skinable is Chatzilla?

#10 Re: Chatzilla UI

by eXv <exv@randomc.com>

Saturday May 27th, 2000 4:34 PM

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What exactly do you mean multiple windows? It lets you connect to multiple servers in the same window as is. Not sure what you mean...

As for the skinnability, I can't comment greatly on that, but you can check out chrome/packages/chatzilla/chatzilla/skin

or look at:

<http://lxr.mozilla.org/se…/extensions/irc/xul/skin/>

To see the CSS files that provide just about all the display characteristics.

#11 Re: Re: Chatzilla UI

by basic <_basic@yahoo.com>

Saturday May 27th, 2000 6:39 PM

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I meant separate windows for each channel or server.

#2 Should Chatzilla be listed in Chromezone? N/T

by basic <_basic@yahoo.com>

Friday May 26th, 2000 7:04 PM

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N/T

#12 No, it's not chrome, it's a Web app n/t

by Kovu <Kovu401@netscape.net>

Saturday May 27th, 2000 6:45 PM

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n/t

#14 There is an Add-ons section...

by sdm

Saturday May 27th, 2000 9:56 PM

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...in the chromeZone, where 3rd party apps can be placed, such as chatzilla. Since chatzilla is in the mozilla tree, there really isn't much point in hosting it in the chromeZone as well. Well, that's my opionion.

-steve (chromeZone admin #3)

#16 Re: There is an Add-ons section...

by svn <svn@xmlterm.org>

Sunday May 28th, 2000 10:50 PM

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If ChatZilla isn't included in Netscape PR2 or 6.0, as I suspect will be the case, it may be worth hosting it in the ChromeZone.

#3 M16?

by basic <_basic@yahoo.com>

Friday May 26th, 2000 7:24 PM

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Does anybody know if M16 is coming soon?

#4 Re: M16?

by thelem

Saturday May 27th, 2000 5:14 AM

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And is anyone going to update the Milestones pages? They say M16 came out on the 5th.

#5 Re: Re: M16?

by gerbilpower <gerbil@ucdavis.edu>

Saturday May 27th, 2000 10:41 AM

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The feature freeze date was delayed by 2 weeks (the 16th) and they appear to be taking extra time trying to stabilize it, since M16 is suppose to be the basis for PR2.

The nightlies have been really good the past couple days.

<:3)~~

#6 Re: Re: Re: M16?

by sicking

Saturday May 27th, 2000 11:01 AM

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MailNews is total caos (ok it's not that bad) but it has regressed severly since M15

#7 My Sidebar

by skeeterow <skeetersrow@netscape.net>

Saturday May 27th, 2000 11:18 AM

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Downloaded this to take a look at the chatzilla,it works fine looks good ect, but seems that the build itself has some problems, i.e. the sidebar click to close to the left or open doesn't work, plus have had a couple of total freezes while just doing some normal surfing. This build is not as stable as M 15

#8 /join works too

by doron

Saturday May 27th, 2000 1:18 PM

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you can use the /join command and not the /attach one in new mozilla builds.

Doron

#9 Re: /join works too

by doron

Saturday May 27th, 2000 2:35 PM

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i meant /server, not /join!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#13 ChatZilla message window.

by sunose

Saturday May 27th, 2000 8:45 PM

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Do anyone know that how to change the ChatZilla Message Out Window CharSet Encoding? IN My Windows NT Server can't see the Chinese.

thanks

#15 AOL should write AIM as a Chatzilla add-on!

by gwalla <gwalla@despammed.com>

Sunday May 28th, 2000 1:52 AM

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The purposes (chat) and interfaces are similar enough, why not?

#17 Welll... I dunno

by leafdigital

Tuesday May 30th, 2000 10:09 AM

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(Disclaimer: I'm the author of a Win32 IRC client, leafChat - <http://www.leafdigital.com/software/leafchat/> - so I'm not entirely unbiased.)

I suppose Chatzilla is a good thing if it encourages people to use IRC (which is and always has been based - rather loosely - on an open standard, rather than the proprietary systems of AIM, ICQ, et al).

On the other hand, it's a really dire IRC client. Let's just hope (a) that it becomes a lot better by any kind of general release, and (b) that it doesn't put people off IRC for life.

I think the suggestion in the article that Netscape will "shoot themselves in the foot" if they don't include Chatzilla is silly. Nobody is going to download Mozilla rather than Netscape, just because it includes a bad IRC chat client. Having got Netscape, they'll also download a reasonably *decent* IRC chat client (unfortunately, most likely that'll be mIRC) if they want one. If they don't know they want one, then they won't bother with that either.

(BTW, Netscape had a really terrible IRC client once before. That died a death, thank the gods.)

Overall, though, I think it will be a good thing if (a) Chatzilla is improved at least to a semi-usable standard, and (b) it is then included in the Netscape 6 release. Anything that improves the profile of IRC has to be a good thing.

--sam

#18 Re: Welll... I dunno

by uksi

Tuesday May 30th, 2000 4:20 PM

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I have to agree... ChatZilla is currently hardly usable. The whole "attach to network" thing is confusing, as I don't know what server it tries to connect to and it doesn't seem to retry properly. For example, my "main" IRC network, DALnet, is full of international servers. I, however, wouldn't want to connect to a server somewhere in Hongkong, just because of the lag that this would cause. I like how mIRC lets me to choose either an individual server or things like "Random US DALnet server" or "Random EU DALnet server." If the whole /attach to net thing is supposed to make the process of getting on an IRC network simple, and get "plain users" on IRC easier, why isn't there a graphical UI for this? Why not, before making a connection, have a dialog box, sort of like mIRC's, that lets the user select an IRC network or a specific server or geographical group of servers within a network and then connect?

I would also like the ability of having an SDI-style interface (heck, even MDI-style is fine), where every channel and query window are in a separate desktop windows, so that I could arrange them and have two or more chats side by side.

These are basic usability things that are missing from ChatZilla and I feel somewhat wrong saying these things, since ChatZilla is still under early devlopment. Still, I agree with leafdigital that Netscape isn't losing much by excluding ChatZilla from Netscape 6.

#19 Re: Re: Welll... I dunno

by basic <_basic@yahoo.com>

Saturday June 3rd, 2000 3:38 PM

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SDI seems more feasable than MDI. Maybe some of the XUL experts can help? No?

#20 Can ChatZilla be used on AOL chat?

by nribecca <nick@ribecca.com>

Thursday June 28th, 2007 2:19 PM

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Can ChatZilla be used on AOL chat? I love the interface, but, many people I work with use their AIM to stay in touch, so I would love to be able to link up with that within the ChatZilla interface.

Is this possible?

Thanks Nick

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