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ActiveState to Build Cross-Platform IDE Using Mozilla Foundation!

Thursday May 25th, 2000

Mitchell Baker wrote in to tell us that ActiveState is also using Mozilla as foundation of its cross platform IDE "Komodo."

Again, this damn "Mozilla is a platform" meme keeps turning up, refusing to be squashed by the "Mozilla should only be a browser" naysayers (the same folks, mind you, who admit that Microsoft is turning IE into a platform as well). When a company like ActiveState throws its development muscle behind Mozilla as it has with this announcement, it proves that Mozilla is actually being recognized as a key to future cross-platform development.


#7 Re: Mozilla is not a platform.

by mozineAdmin

Friday May 26th, 2000 5:55 AM

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"IE isn't a platform, either."

Tell that to microsoft. They are building IE to be a platform for web-based Internet applpications. That's what their HTML components are about. That's what their XML and XSLT push is about. It's all about building a means of creating Internet-based applications around the browser. You can't say that nobody is doing significant work in IE-based applications other than single-browser environments, because that makes it sound like IE is lacking the monopoly-power and muscle to force their views of the world on the rest of us. And we know that's just not the case.

What you don't seem to understand is that Mozilla doesn't require an 80% installed base for Mozilla-based applications to come about. Because these applications *don't require* that Mozilla the browser be installed! They can use as little or as much of the undelying Mozilla code as they need to create their own applications. The examples that we have seen so far - XMLTerm, ChatZilla - they all are installed inside the Mozilla browser suite. However, new applications can be build from the ground up with no connection to the browser suite whatsoever. What Mozilla offers is a means of getting a lot of underlying cross-platform networking and rendering and standards-compliant technologies for free! And that's why ActiveState is jumping on board. Their IDE is not going to require Mozilla the browser - it will be built using Mozilla's technologies.

There is no "mythical dream" of Mozilla as an application platform. The fact is it's already here! Mozilla the browser that you are using is just an example of it in action. Chatzilla, now cross-platform, is a simple example of how to extend it. ActiveState's IDE will be an example of how to build entirely new applications with it. If Mozilla wasn't an xp application platform already, the Mozilla browser that you see today wouldn't even be possible.