ActiveState to Build Cross-Platform IDE Using Mozilla Foundation!

Thursday May 25th, 2000

Mitchell Baker wrote in to tell us that ActiveState is also using Mozilla as foundation of its cross platform IDE "Komodo."

Again, this damn "Mozilla is a platform" meme keeps turning up, refusing to be squashed by the "Mozilla should only be a browser" naysayers (the same folks, mind you, who admit that Microsoft is turning IE into a platform as well). When a company like ActiveState throws its development muscle behind Mozilla as it has with this announcement, it proves that Mozilla is actually being recognized as a key to future cross-platform development.

#6 Mozilla is not a platform.

by leafdigital

Friday May 26th, 2000 4:46 AM

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Yawn. It just isn't going to happen. Yes, a few things might be done based on Mozilla, but it's not going to rival Windows, MacOS, Linux or even Java as an application platform.

Frankly, there's no point (those other application platforms are fine), and Mozilla's market share is never going to reach a high enough point (80%+) where people can really rely on these Mozilla-only features for developing web applications (the one niche where they'd be useful).

I don't understand why people are obsessed with "Mozilla as a platform" - yes, it's cool, it has a few useful applications, but it's not going to change the world.

Why not concentrate on "Mozilla as a browser" (and email client and news readers), which really *might* change the world? There are lots of incredibly cool developments - first, it is/will be a great browser with very good standards support, second the customisation potential (which goes way beyond traditional "skins") is truly awesome, third the Gecko/Mozilla core may be of use on many smaller devices such as the Intel/Nokia developments we've heard about. This is all great stuff! There's no need to build our hopes on the mythical dream of an application platform that will take over the world, which seem to linger from the old days when Netscape really thought it could take on Microsoft in general (OS) as well as in the browser market. Netcape was wrong then; Mozilla is wrong now.

(I'm not arguing about development priorities, I understand the issues there, as far as development goes it's fine, yes XUL+etc. that makes Mozilla a platform is required for the development and is the right way to do things... it's just the talk and focus on the "platform" idea that annoys me.)

IE isn't a platform, either. Yes, in single-browser company environments it can be used as the basis of custom software, but that's *it*. Nobody else does significant work in IE-based applications. Same applies to Mozilla.