Full Article Attached MozillaZine on Skins

Tuesday April 11th, 2000

I have decided to put my own head on the chopping block and weigh in on the Mozilla skins and native widgets debate. To read more, click "Full Article" below.

#77 Why users complain, was Re: WTF ...

by Swinger

Saturday April 15th, 2000 2:32 PM

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I have been testing Mozilla since M3 and am joyed that NPR1 is finally stable enough to use. Releasing it to the public was a mistake though. It is too slow and ugly to be accepted by end-users. As for the attitude of: "GROW UP PEOPLE....notice the difference enough to actually care, IF they notice AT ALL!"

This philosophy is WHY Mac users are glad JesuX does't develop for that platform. Interface is 50%+ of everything to them. Imagine if the designers of the Porche Boxster decided to make the body literally a box. No one would of bought it. User spend much of the day looking at the same screen. If that screen is ugly they are looking at ugly all day. Mac users spend a couple hundred $ extra for a more refined looking interface than that of Windows or the nightmare that is the Linux-motif/gnome/kde/athena/etc. user land. They don't want ugly apps that take away from that user experience they paid $ for.

The ugly xp-widgets still bug me.Even though I support the idea and the politics of the XP-widgets both I and the general active mac user hate the look. I think a default Mac skin and speed up would solve this but until then beta releases are a big mistake. Right now the browser often seems to hang [it's not dead, it's resting!] for many seconds at a time. What does the user look at in frustration? Ugly X/-Windows like widgets! When the browser gets fast and responsive, and gains user-side features [hint users don't see CSS1 compliance, autocomplete they do] then the ugly widgets will not be as bad. But please, can't someone make optional button widgets with rounded edges that we could use?