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Suck on Skins

Tuesday April 11th, 2000

TheUIGuy wrote in about a Suck.com article that talks about Mozilla/Netscape 6 and it's skinnability. It takes a very negative view on what we feel is a very positive technology.

Skins allow the user to pick their interface. Packages allow them to extend it. This customization allows anyone to choose how they browse the Web, manage mail, or use any of Mozilla's other applications. The author of the Suck piece, Greg Knauss, seems to feel that choice is bad, because there is the possibility for poorly designed or useless skins. That comes close to saying, "there could be ugly pages on the Web, so shut it down."

Greg also states, "by adding in all the flexibility of XUL, the Mozilla programmers have removed our ability to make the application use the native controls of the operating system." This shows a fundamental misunderstanding of Open Source. The direction Mozilla is taking doesn't prevent anyone from doing anything. The capability to do exactly what Greg wants is right there, in the code sitting on the CVS server, and in the mind and will of someone who needs something done differently. Mozilla might not be doing what you want, but that does not mean that you are prevented from doing it yourself.

(FYI, there are projects for Windows and Linux -- and nothing preventing a Mac project -- for embedding the HTML renderer into a native wrapper application.)


#37 Suck, Chrome, and Choice...

by SuperNovus

Thursday April 13th, 2000 11:30 AM

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You know, I read the suck article and I thought it was rather funny. It was SATIRE people. Didn't you figure that out? I mean when he starts saying people shouldn't even be able to decorate their houses? Come on! As for this argument about Chrome. I personally think that XUL is 100% the way to go. I think that the Mozilla developers should make some standard looking "skins" that match the OS that they are running on for defaults. Simple looking skins. Those of us who like the freedom to customize will do so. I for one say the more free software is, the more we'll see software whose user interface is customizable. Go XUL, Go Mozilla, Go Linux, and Go Open Source! Have a great day!