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Suck on Skins

Tuesday April 11th, 2000

TheUIGuy wrote in about a Suck.com article that talks about Mozilla/Netscape 6 and it's skinnability. It takes a very negative view on what we feel is a very positive technology.

Skins allow the user to pick their interface. Packages allow them to extend it. This customization allows anyone to choose how they browse the Web, manage mail, or use any of Mozilla's other applications. The author of the Suck piece, Greg Knauss, seems to feel that choice is bad, because there is the possibility for poorly designed or useless skins. That comes close to saying, "there could be ugly pages on the Web, so shut it down."

Greg also states, "by adding in all the flexibility of XUL, the Mozilla programmers have removed our ability to make the application use the native controls of the operating system." This shows a fundamental misunderstanding of Open Source. The direction Mozilla is taking doesn't prevent anyone from doing anything. The capability to do exactly what Greg wants is right there, in the code sitting on the CVS server, and in the mind and will of someone who needs something done differently. Mozilla might not be doing what you want, but that does not mean that you are prevented from doing it yourself.

(FYI, there are projects for Windows and Linux -- and nothing preventing a Mac project -- for embedding the HTML renderer into a native wrapper application.)


#36 Re: There is a simple solution!

by basic <_basic@yahoo.com>

Wednesday April 12th, 2000 11:58 PM

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Efforts to do what you suggested are on their way. It would be a simple solution assuming that everyone is using a "default" skin/widget/color... but the truth is that they don't (or there might not be a common or default skin).

That is why I hope to see the CSS2 system color and CSS3 draft system font features implemented in Mozilla (See links from my earlier post).