Web Standards Project Blasts IE

Monday April 10th, 2000

Luke writes, "The Web Standards Project posted a press release pointing out (and frowning upon) Internet Explorer 5.5's poor standards support. IE still does not fully support CSS1 or HTML 4, and has very poor support for DOM level 1 compared to Mozilla, which is currently very close to full support with only minor bugs left."

You can read more about this at XMLHack, and you can also read MS's position on standards here.

#5 agreed - sort of

by jhewitt <>

Tuesday April 11th, 2000 5:27 PM

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I definitely agree with you that standards support is not sufficient for building apps that work. Standards are great, but often you need to do stuff that isn't standard yet. That's why I completely support MS and Moz implementing proprietary stuff...

However, if a standard is out there, support it first, for crissakes! That's IE's downfall. Mozilla, on the other hand, isn't implementing any proprietary stuff in the web browser. Instead, they're inventing a ton of proprietary stuff for XPFE that may one day be a standard - and that's all cool since they're implementing the standards too.

The XML issues you speak of are valid. However, I beg to differ that they are not possible to do in Mozilla.

A). You can load and save XML data with ECMAScript using a hidden IFRAME. I know because I use that very technique today in Mozilla.

B). If you want to serialize XML with ECMAScript, it's not that hard. It would probably take less than 100 lines of ECMAScript to implement an XML DOM serializer.

C). And you could persist that a string of XML in a cookie easily.

D). If you want to parse XML, it's quite easy. Use the "createContextualFragment" technique that people have discussed for mimicing IE's .innerHTML property.