Weekend Discussion

Friday March 24th, 2000

Time for another weekend discussion. The question this weekend:

What do you feel is an appropriate level of integration between a browser and an Operating System? And at the other end of the spectrum, what are your feelings about Mozilla's cross-platform approach?

#64 IE5 for Mac (lots of stuff)

by Silverthorn <>

Monday March 27th, 2000 10:47 AM

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Well, I just installed it on a computer in the Mac lab at school. As much as I hate to admit it, it does seem to be a pretty impressive program.. ;)

The new interface is fairly flashy, going on that whole candy theme again (how much candy can we take with MacOSX coming out? hehe).

The ability to change the color on the interface, configure the icons on the toolbars, collapse all toolbars and status bar at once. It all works well, and the throbber is really nice...

But anyway, it seems good in the standards department. I just went through almost the whole list of top 10 msie4.5 mac bugs and everything seemed to be fixed. I also went to a bunch of pages with CSS on them, and I didn't see anything out of place.

Also on their website, they mention it can show the acid box test ok. They actually claim to be the only browser able to show it correctly, but I think Mozilla can show it fine? They're probably going on the technicality that Mozilla is still alpha?

They claimed ping support on the site, but when I tried to view one, it didn't know what to view it with. And on the site it opens up to, there is a demo page with flash, but flash isn't installed? Perhaps because this is still an early version?

But I think Mozilla should be really careful right now. This version seems to work really well, and the interface is really flashy and Mac-like. And it also keeps the various old features like the url completion (now the box is transluscent).

If someone were to compare Mozilla and this side by side, IE would look a lot better, both in the interface and speed and features, at least from a regular user's point of view...

So, I guess we'll see how all of this goes. I'm still not sure that I'd be ready to install it on my home computer if they made a PC version that was just as good, but it looks good, and I'm glad they finally seem to be getting their act together in terms of the standards.

I viewed a page I put together as an experiment before (using Mozilla as the preview browser), and IE4.5 on mac showed it pretty well, but the right edges of some divs were ragged. But now it looks fine. So Mozilla and IE5Mac are the only ones that can view it right.

Perhaps Netscape 6 and a final IE5 will finally be more where we want things to be...