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Weekend Discussion

Friday March 3rd, 2000

This weekend's discussion: What keeps you interested in Mozilla, and what expectations do you have?

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#49 Please keep your comments friendly!

by Tanyel <tanyel@straightblack.com>

Saturday March 4th, 2000 8:25 PM

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First, call the rancid whore that gave birth to you and ask her to teach you about civility.

"Standards are there for a reason. If pages are rendering incorrectly in a standards-compliant browser, and the reason isn't bugs in the browser, then the pages have something wrong with them. End of story."

The pages do render correctly. The only browser that does not render them correctly is Mozilla. I was saying that, when the W3C was making "recommendations", it should have made them in a way that would not invalidate Webpages that were just fine before the W3C came along. You said "if pages are rendering incorrectly in a standards-compliant browser, and the reason isn't bugs in the browser, then the pages have something wrong with them". There was nothing wrong with them before the W3C recommendation. That is like pouring water on a dry towel and blaming the towel for the wetness. This not the end of the story. You think the only possibility is problems with the Webpage. The other possibility is problems with the "standards".

I am currently pro-Mozilla. The things I type are meant to be constructive and helpful in making Mozilla a success. What happens if somebody has 1000 Webpages that work fine on every browser except Mozilla? Do you think they are going to change all 1000 pages, or are they going to put a "Best viewed with Internet Explorer" banner on their main page?

"If you don't like the W3 standards, invent your own markup language, give it a new file extension, and code a viewer.."

I am doing this.

"If you're the genius you think you are"

I am.

"do everyone a favor and shut the hell up."

While you are on the phone, ask the bitch about the proper way to express disagreement.

"What the hell are you, anyway? Some kind of troll?"

Read the profile, idiot. If you cannot understand the words, I suggest you look at this: <http://www.hookedonphonics.com/>

"All I ever see you doing is referring to engineers as "flunkies" and acting like everyone is accountable to you for everything you perceive as wrong with the world (which is to say, nearly everything)."

You are either blind or stupid. I type meaningful opinions and suggestions. You seem to think I am accountable to you. Yes, I called Ben Goodgar a lame Netscape flunkie, and I may have called a <understatement>few</understatement> people trolls. You are a lame W3C flunkie. I called him a flunkie because he called my suggestion absurd instead of just explaining why he did not think it was practical. That is all you need to know about that. I called people trolls because I thought they were unfairly criticizing Mozilla and not giving it a chance. That is all you need to know about that. I called your mother a rancid whore because you told me to "shut the hell up" and suggested that I am a troll. That is all you need to know about that.

"it's about bloody time that I get to use the technologies I read about years ago. What am I looking for in Mozilla? The first browser that's actually modern for its time since Mosaic 1."

This is the only thing you typed that was not stupid. Also, I hope you do not think I care what you think. I care more about whether I spelled "Goodgar" right than your feelings. I like Kovu and gerbilpower. I think it has something to do with the lion and the gerbil. Do you have a cute animal? No! Cute animals run from trolls.

Scroll up and look at my exchange of words with mozineAdmin. I explained that I switched from Netscape to Internet Explorer due to problems with the old Netscape, and I was expecting Mozilla to be good enough for me to switch back. He explained to me why he made a different decision and chose not to use Internet Explorer. I answered some of his questions to the best of my ability at that time, and he responded to that. There was no part in which he said "shut the hell up" or "get a life already". There was no part in which he said "your thoughts are absurd". In turn, there was no part in which I called him a flunkie or a troll, or called his mother a rancid bitch. Learn, flunkie. Be respectful to me and I will be respectful to you.