Salon, Mozilla, JWZ and Code Rush

Thursday February 10th, 2000

Mrpalomar and Jens Andersen have written in with mention of the article "Mozilla dreams" at But they neglected to mention the front page piece at Salon, "Free Software! Free Nightlife!", about former Mozilla evangelist Jamie Zawinski, and his efforts to buy the club DNA in San Francisco. Man, I miss SF. That is, until I realize that I'd probably be scrounging for pennies just to buy a dollar burrito because the town is so freaking expensive to live in. But, I digress. If you are interested in finding out more about one of Netscape's most outspoken ex-employees, be sure to check it out.

Also, the article lets the cat out of the bag on the PBS documentary, Code Rush, set to air on March 30st at 10pm. From the PBS page: "The program presents Netscape's radical effort to rewrite the rules of software development by giving away the recipe for its browser in exchange for integrating improvements created by outside unpaid software developers." We will have more to tell you about it as soon as we get permission to do so.

The Mozilla article is rather uplifting, and really sets the distinction between Mozilla and IE (the IE group project leader is quoted as saying that "...frequently, the features or work items that come out of customers are orthogonal to some of the different standards.") The author, Andrew Leonard, has thankfully opted against dredging up Mozilla's past (he gets a big thumbs up for not mentioning jwz's departure as a sign of Mozilla's imminent failure). Although short, this is one of the best Mozilla articles I have seen on the Net to date. Be sure to check it out.

#1 I just want to say ...

by gerbilpower

Thursday February 10th, 2000 5:34 AM


Sorry about that, late night homework/procrastination.

Okay, reading the positive article on Mozilla was my break and I hope to see more like it, as usual.

Back to work now ...


#2 west coast style

by sdm

Thursday February 10th, 2000 7:39 AM

Wow, I wish there was someone like this in Boston.

#3 Good article

by Kovu

Thursday February 10th, 2000 2:28 PM

Excellent article. I'd be curious which "features" customers are requesting that force Microsoft to break all the standards that they are.

#4 Features?

by Tanyel

Thursday February 10th, 2000 8:16 PM

I did not know there was a way to request features in Internet Explorer. Mozilla seems much more open to suggestions.

I think Netscape's example of how to make a My Netscape channel is very clear. There is a list of tags and headers in one column with their explanations and requirements in the other, and there is also a picture of what the result looks like. Is there any Webpage that has a similar example of regular XML?

#5 Re: Features?

by macpeep

Friday February 11th, 2000 6:22 PM

Regular XML? What would that be? The term XML is comparable to the term "language" if RDF, XHTML or WML is "french", "english" and "spanish".

You can't "learn language". You can't learn "XML". You can learn the basic rules of an XML based language. That would be analogue to learning what "noun" and "verb" means and how to write a sentence (capitalize the first character etc.).


by Tanyel

Friday February 11th, 2000 9:13 PM

Okay... an example that would create something like that book listing on the Mozilla site. I think I will try to find that again.