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Sunday February 6th, 2000

Familiar with MacOS X? Wondering what's going on in MozillaLand regarding MacOS X? Well, look no further than the Fizzilla page on mozilla.org. Find out why they are switching from the Carbon-API backend to the BSD Unix backend that MacOS X provides, and how you can help if you want to see a strong browser for the MacOS X market.


#1 indirect support

by petejc <pete@mozdev.org>

Sunday February 6th, 2000 2:01 PM

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Hey since the Mac OSX is basically the FreeBSD kernel, does this mean that mozilla will be indirectly supporting FreeBSD as a first tier build. Or will mac OSX be considered a port?

It would be nice to see FreeBSD move up in the world next to linux on the tinderbox 1st tier.

;-)

It's all good.

pete

#2 Re: indirect support

by gerbilpower <gerbil@ucdavis.edu>

Sunday February 6th, 2000 3:11 PM

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I don't think it's just the FreeBSD kernel, may times I heard it just refered to as a BSD layer on top of a Mach kernel.

There is some NeXT stuff in there, but I'm not sure how it fits into the overall system.

But it does sound like any work done on Fizilla may benefit the FreeBSD port.

<:3)~~

#3 Re: indirect support

by yakk

Sunday February 6th, 2000 10:58 PM

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MacOSX doesn't use the FreeBSD kernel. It uses a Mach kernel, with a BSD subsystem on top of it. I believe they've updated the userland to be based on the FreeBSD userland as the previous OpenStep userland was getting a little out of date. Interestingly they've adopted Debian's dpkg tool for package management - certainly a much better option than FreeBSD's package tool from my experiences with both of them.

I'm sure the mozilla.org people would accept a donation of a machine from FreeBSD for tinderbox. They've been donated machines by a variety of other OS vendors.

Ian

#4 funny

by petejc <pete@mozdev.org>

Monday February 7th, 2000 9:11 AM

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Interestingly they've adopted Debian's dpkg tool for package management - certainly a much better option than FreeBSD's package tool from my experiences with both of them.

Hmmm . . Funny, i was just at the linux conference the other day and Bruce Perens the creator of the the Debian package system was telling Jordan Hubbard the creator of the FreeBSD ports system that they should merge together the two. The linux gurus there all seemed to feel that the FreeBSD ports system was probably best FWIW.

Accepting donations of a machine doesn't mean that the platform will be supported first tier. It would still remain a port.

pete