Tree Closed for M13

Wednesday January 19th, 2000

The tree has closed for M13 stabilization, so we can expect to see an M13 build show up sometime within the next week or so. There has been a lot of work done over the past few weeks, and I think a lot of people will be happy with the progress they see in the final M13 binaries. Keep an eye out here for news and more of what to expect in M13.

#36 Re: Moz is trash!

by DTHML_Fiend

Friday January 21st, 2000 11:45 PM

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Well I won't start off by saying that Mozilla is the best thing out there, etc, etc because if you don't believe then it's not in my power to convince you. What I will say is that maybe you expect too much from the UI. UI is very important but it's not the number one top issue here, other things like XUL, rendering, and DOM far out weight the fact that prefs might not always work. People expect Moz to instantly have all the nicer refinements like IE has and of course that will come but right now the core is more important. As for stability, I'd say they have made improvements. For me personally I can use Moz for a long time and not have it crash. Maybe part of your instabilty problem is the result of a less then stable OS. Win98 and esp Win98SE are two very, nasty and unstable work environments, possibly using Linux or Win2k/NT will help solve that issue. And while Moz does still have quite a few rendering bugs and dom bugs none of the other big browsers out there have CSS or the DOM right. I must agree with you that Moz can be a pain in the ass some times and I admit that I don't and won't use Mozilla as my primary browser for awhile, but I see nothing wrong with people doing a little celebrating and back patting. I know as a developer that being told that your product is shit by people that don't have all the facts in hand really sucks the will to develop right out of ya esp when what youre showing off isn't the finished product.