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M12 Out!

Tuesday December 21st, 1999

M12 is now out. Get it from the FTP site. It might be a little difficult to get in. If you have a mirror site, let us know in the forum, and we'll add your info to this news item.

So far there are releases for Mac, FreeBSD, Sparc Solaris 2.7, Windows, OpenVMS and Linux.


#75 Re: what feldercarb said

by feldercarb

Tuesday December 28th, 1999 4:18 PM

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OK, I have finished filing the bugs. They are as follows.

1 was a duplicate of bug 14494, which had been erroneously marked closed. I reopened it with comments.

2 and 7 were duplicates of popular bug 9701, a major focus problem that has been kicking around for months. (Anyone else feel like focus problems have come to occupy WAY too much programmer time lately? I just got off a project where a quarter of all the late-game bugs must have been focus bugs. There has to be a better way!)

3 has been filed as 22761, 4 as 22766, 5 as 22769, 8 as 22771.

Bug 6 was not reproducible, nor were the crashes I saw. In the course of double-checking the bugs I came across other crashes (e.g., a crash when bringing up Open Web Location) which were also not reproducible. MTBF remains in the vicinity of a few minutes.

I observed a known bug, copy and paste not working in the URL bar, which would seriously impact the ability to fill in the URL field of a bug report.

Total time spent following up on bugs was in the ninety minute range, as predicted.

As for the current discussion, anyone who doesn't understand the importance of unit testing one's own software is not a software engineer, merely a programmer.

The idea that quality software can result from delegating all bug-finding work to external parties is clearly insane, but most programmers are insane in this and similar ways.

Echinacea Feldercarb